Posted on 03/12/2005 4:43:56 PM PST by MadIvan
She's getting that right now....and what she doesn't pick up as Sec of State, she's a quick learner. I'd vote for her, and I'm as hard-line pro-life as they come. Bluntly, a Republican who is "pro-choice" is just that: pro-CHOICE. Leave it up to the woman, because in the end, it really is her decision. A Demonrat who is "pro-choice" is really pro-abortion. The Dems' version of choice is what kind of abortion do you choose: Saline injection, limb-separation, or partial birth?
Condi destroys Hitlery in every way imagineable....except dishonesty. Hitlery would lie to her own mother if it would gain power for her. We all know deep inside that Condi is a good one and wouldn't screw her own country for short term profit.
I want a ProLife Latino or Black on the ticket to take back the cities from the Dumorats.
The false assumptions you make about me personally could have been avoided had you followed the thread a little further.
I understood what you meant the first time around, before the lengthy explanation. I just didn't agree. I still don't.
With the right campaign manager she can win. In the debates it's logic versus logic.
I agree with you 100 percent on that. I could live with a President Bayh. President Hillary makes my skin crawl just thinking about it.
Yeah. There are gonna be people we don't know of that come out of nowhere and make their presence known. Go back in time 3 years and not many people outside of the state of Massachussettes knew who John Kerry was. I'm not so sure the Democrat primaries are gonna be a slam dunk for Hillary like everyone says. Being a Clinton, she's got the name recognition. But right now it doesn't mean a thing.
McCain and Specter are RINOs.
Condi?
If someone thinks she's a RINO, they're smoking too much crack.
She's more conservative than the current Bush...and makes the previous Bush look like a liberal loon.
There are not many people outside of the state of Massachussettes who still have no idea who John Kerry was...most of his votes were generated by the liberal hate-machine "He's not Bush".
Hillary won't get the nomination in 2008. It will be Evan Bayh. Count on it. And he will probably win. People here in Indiana will vote for him no matter what he does or says. Keep an eye on his positioning in the next couple of years.
"The false assumptions you make about me personally..."
I had specifically stated that I was making a reasonable presumption. At any rate, the class of people with whom I have complaint are very very clearly present in this forum, indeed in this thread.
"I understood what you meant the first time around, before the lengthy explanation. I just didn't agree. I still don't."
Ok. But a "lengthy explanation" creates, at a minimum, the possibility for debate. To say "I just don't agree" is a statement I infer means, "I can't defend my position". Or am I being unreasonable?
TO ME, those who say, "a 'mildy pro-choice' person is a RINO" are being juvenile and/or naive at the best, and falsely self-righteous at the worst, and in both cases counter-productive to the goal they claim to value.
While to say so and leave it at that would be divisive and unproductive, I am willing to debate the matter and explain my reasoning, as I feel I've done, at least in summary.
Are you? (or any other "pro-choicers are RINO's" readers?)
And THE REASON I am willing to discuss it here, is because I would like to further the Republican party, for a very many reasons, including but not limited to the fact that I would like to see abortions per pregnancies to continue declining over time.
Is that a concern of yours, as well?
PS: Whatever I appeared to assume of you, I retract it if I was wrong. Meanwhile, I have been labelled a RINO, for THE SOLE REASON that I would advocate Condi in the case where she is the only hope against Hellery. To me, THAT accusation is an infantile absurdity which is NOT reasonable as a presumption, let alone a conclusion. It is not often I feel like I'm taking on the role of "the martyr", but in this case, in this thread, I think (?) that I am taking a position which is very isomorphic to that of the sole conservative on something like The Bill Maher Show, attempting to promote an unpopular position which advances conservative values, while receiving only meaningless quips in return.
Cool website--thanks!
Very simple. Concentrate: Pro-Choice = RINO.
Ah...you are a rare and unique fellow.
See, many of us can recognize RINOs without making that brush so broad as to belong to an exclusive club like your own.
Arnold...RINO...Specter...RINO...CT Whitman...RINO...McCain. ..RINO, even, at least for you, Bush becomes a RINO. He's done well as a conservative, but not as well as I would like. The rest of us, however, require quite a bit more than a "mild" position on any given issue to make a RINO.
Good luck.
"INOs in the minority and they just can't stand it...."
Oh my yes, we are just writhing in the humiliation cast upon us by extremist cranks like yourself. Take a look around, Chuckie--guess who's in the minority.
Probably you should go back to lurking--preferably somewhere else.
"Geraldino Ferraro didn't push Walter Mondale into office. "
Because she and he were both left leaning, out of the mainstream. Condi is not. The arguments you people make about Condi are the same ones you made about G.W. Bush. You think that the secret to winning and keeping the White House is to pander to the farthest right edge of the Republican Party. There's no evidence with which to back up your assertion.
So, once again, I say, "Go Condi!"
"Ever wonder why Pete Wilson disappeared? "
Ever wonder why Arnold showed up?
"George Bush didn't use the "sanctity of life" rhetoric by accident."
And GWB lifts not finger one to ban abortion. Condi, too, believes in the sanctity of life and, like Bush, wants them to be rare and remarkable in America.
Oh, yeah, forgot to mention: so far, 83% of Freepers say they would support Condi. Guess that makes us the majority around here.
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