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Newsday ^ | 3/11/2005 | Carol Eisenberg

Posted on 03/11/2005 6:08:10 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

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To: Fred Nerks
LOL.. yes, it isn't fair.

Others are still getting used to seeing everything in color.
21 posted on 03/11/2005 7:09:32 PM PST by NexusBlue (AUTHENTIC HISTORY VS. LIES AND PROPOGANDA <- [Tagline on loan from Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid])
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To: NexusBlue

SHAME ON YOU. THERE YOU GO AGAIN SPREADING DISTORTIONS ABOUT WHO I AM AND WHAT I STAND FOR. PLEASE NOTE: (1) MY ANTI-WAR ACTIVITY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE U.S. VS.AL QAEDA. IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE AFGHANI PEOPLE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE. (2) THIS IS A DELIBERATE LIE DESIGNED TO APPEAL TO PEOPLE WHO DISLIKE REV. SHARPTON, WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ANTI-WAR PROTESTS I WORKED ON. I DID WORK WITH HIM AROUND THE AMADOU DIALLO CASE.GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME SPEAKING OUT WHEN INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE GUNNED DOWN? HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND IF FOUR BLACK COPS GUNNED DOWN AN INNOCENT YOUNG WHITE MAN?(3)ON JIHAD: ANOTHER DELIBERATE LIE (WHY IS IT THAT SOMEONE FEELS COMPELLED TO MIS-REPRESENT WHAT I SAY? THREATENED BY THE TRUTH?) ANYWAY, WHAT I SAID IS:
"Jihad is one of the most misunderstood of Islamic terms used today, and many Muslims are as confused by it as non-Muslims. In the West, few words carry as much power to instill fear or hatred. That's because the news media have widely interpreted jihad to mean "holy war," linking it with extremism and terrorism in the public consciousness. News reports of bombings in the Middle East only deepen the identification of jihad with violence. It's not surprising that so many Americans perceive the word in light of the Crusades of centuries ago -- as a kind of latter-day Crusade in reverse.
But the concept of jihad is a beautiful one that has nothing to do with aggressive warfare. Simply put, jihad finds its origin in the verb jahada which means to struggle, to fight.
The word has a few different connotations, since struggle can occur on several levels. Muslims understand these levels based not only on the words of Allah in the Qur'an, but also on the authentic statements of the Prophet Muhammad as recorded in our oral traditions, preserved as ahadith. Here are the levels of jihad:

Personal Jihad: Prophet Muhammad Ibn 'Abdullah (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "The most excellent jihad is that of the soul." This jihad, called the Jihadun-Nafs, is the intimate struggle to purify the soul of satanic influence -- both subtle and overt. It is the struggle to cleanse one's spirit of sin. This is the most important level of jihad.

Verbal Jihad: On another occasion, the Prophet said, "The most excellent jihad is the speaking of truth in the face of a tyrant." He encouraged raising one's voice in the name of Allah on behalf of justice.

Physical Jihad: This is combat waged in defense of Muslims against oppression and transgression by the enemies of Allah, Islam and Muslims. We are commanded by Allah to lead peaceful lives and not transgress against anyone, but also to defend ourselves against oppression by "fighting against those who fight against us." This "jihad with the hand" is the aspect of jihad that has been so profoundly misunderstood in today's world."
GOT IT? I HOPE SO. LET'S SEE, OH YEAH:
(4)"ALLEGED" BACK-LASH? TELL THAT TO PEOPLE (MUSLIMS, OR OTHER FOLK WHO "LOOKED LIKE" MUSLIMS)WHO WERE PHYSICALLY ATTACKED, OR WHO HAD THEIR PLACES OF WORSHIP VANDALIZED, (5)PRAISE OF MALCOLM X? YES.I AM GUILTY AS CHARGED.PEOPLE WHOM THE U.S. POST OFFICE HONORS ARE O.K. WITH ME(6) SUPPORT FOR IMAM JAMIL? RIGHT AGAIN. IS HE A "DOMESTIC TERRORIST"? THE U.S. GOV'T HAS SAID A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT HIM, BUT NEVER IDENTIFIED HIM AS THAT. WHO STARTED THAT ONE? "COP-KILLER"? YES HE HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF THAT. I ATTENDED HIS TRIAL AND STILL BELIEVE HIM INNOCENT, AND THAT ONE DAY HE'LL BE FOUND INNOCENT ON APPEAL. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT. BUT I HAVE A RIGHT TO BELIEVE IN JUSTICE,AND THAT SOMETIMES THE AMERICAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM TAKES A LONG TIME, BUT WORKS WITH ERRORS MADE ON THE WAY. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT? DID YOU ATTEND HIS TRIAL? OF COURSE THESE ARE RHETORICAL QUESTIONS, AS I KNOW YOU GENTLEMEN ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SUCH THINGS. ANYWAY, SEE YOU AROUND GUYS. HAVE A GOOD DAY.P.S. HOW IS THAT THESS NEO-CON PROPOGANDA REFERENCES AGAINST ME APPEARED HERE BEFORE ELSEWHERE? SOMEONE HERE WORKING WITH SOMEONE ELSE LIKE HOROWITZ?











22 posted on 03/14/2005 11:50:36 AM PST by Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid (REGARDING POSTS 74 and 82: SLANDER AGAINST PROPHET MUHAMMAD)
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To: NexusBlue

Keep watching, and you'll understand. BTW since you do "surf", you might try looking for articles on "genetic memory", "collective consciousness", "historical consciousness", and the like. Interesting stuff. I didn't make it up. I just believe that those typre of concepts are not just confined to white folks.


23 posted on 03/14/2005 11:54:31 AM PST by Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid (REGARDING POSTS 74 and 82: SLANDER AGAINST PROPHET MUHAMMAD)
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To: USF

That's him all right. What happened to the tolerance he was preaching to me, specifically??

Taqiyyeh--telling me what he thought would make islam palatable to me.

What a bunch of bull...


24 posted on 03/18/2005 4:33:52 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Dark Skies

I'll send out my Samantha Stevens from Bewitched vibes:

"Dr Rahid, Dr. Rahid

Emergency come right away"

No, seriously, I will attempt to contact him. Let me go get my genie bottle and..

Sorry, I can't stop....

Ok, I will email him. If he still has an account here There. Whew.


25 posted on 03/18/2005 4:37:25 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid
HOW IS THAT THESS NEO-CON PROPOGANDA REFERENCES AGAINST ME APPEARED HERE BEFORE ELSEWHERE? SOMEONE HERE WORKING WITH SOMEONE ELSE LIKE HOROWITZ?

YOU ARE RIGHT. I THINK IT MAY THOSE WILY JEWS, I HEAR THEY ARE VERY CLEAVER.

BTW, PLEASE SEND OVER MORE TIN FOIL...

26 posted on 03/18/2005 4:57:13 PM PST by NexusBlue (AUTHENTIC HISTORY VS. LIES AND PROPOGANDA <- [Tagline on loan from Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid])
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To: Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid
Interesting stuff. I didn't make it up.

OK, I WILL, BUT I AM STILL HALF WAY THROUGH MY DOWNLOADED COPY OF "ELDERS OF THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION." AFTER THAT I HAVE SOME MATERIAL ON ALIEN ABDUCTION, AND THE SEARCH THE IMAGE OF MOHAMMED AT THE BOTTOM OF A FRYING PAN IN CUBA. GOOD STUFF. IT'S ON THE INTERNET SO IT MUST BE TRUE. AFTER THAT, I'LL LOOK INTO WHAT YOU SUGGESTED AND GET BACK TO YOU, OK?

27 posted on 03/18/2005 5:03:49 PM PST by NexusBlue (AUTHENTIC HISTORY VS. LIES AND PROPOGANDA <- [Tagline on loan from Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid])
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To: Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid
AND YOUR COMMENT ON THE ARTICLE ABOVE REGARDING WOMEN LEADING PRAYERS IN A MOSQUE IS... WHAT EXACTLY?
28 posted on 03/18/2005 5:14:15 PM PST by NexusBlue (AUTHENTIC HISTORY VS. LIES AND PROPOGANDA <- [Tagline on loan from Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid])
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To: NexusBlue
I HEAR THEY ARE VERY CLEAVER

If you are thinking June Cleaver, NB, invite me to the party. However, if you are thinking Ward or the Beave...I will wait until your next soiree.

29 posted on 03/18/2005 5:15:24 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: ariamne

Hello Ari...is the old Imam still around? I thought that post was years ago...yet I did think you guys were playing the violin quite well together.


30 posted on 03/18/2005 5:19:19 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies
LOL! WELL I'LL BE... MAY FATWAHS RAIN UPON MY HEAD, FREEZE THE BLOOD IN MY VEINS AND SHAKE THE GROUND BENEATH MY FEET FOR MY TYPO.
31 posted on 03/18/2005 5:23:42 PM PST by NexusBlue (AUTHENTIC HISTORY VS. LIES AND PROPOGANDA <- [Tagline on loan from Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid])
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To: Dark Skies

I haven't heard from Imam in a long time..maybe my tune became discordant? Perhaps I said something offensive to islam?


32 posted on 03/18/2005 5:24:44 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: NexusBlue

Typos my fatwa fanny...where's June! If June is busy, contact Ari for Samantha...I have only two days off from FR rehab...I am even looking for Nurse Ratchet. She's big but she's a party goil.


33 posted on 03/18/2005 5:27:01 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: ariamne

And I thought you guys were peas in a pod. Well, good to hear from you even if you did dump the Imam.


34 posted on 03/18/2005 5:29:17 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: NexusBlue
Tell the Imam I have found their headquarters on Mars.
35 posted on 03/18/2005 5:55:03 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Dark Skies

Yes, we seemed to be getting along, but phhhtt..
Ah, how fickle is woman!


36 posted on 03/18/2005 6:03:16 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: ariamne
I think the Imam has been looking for his natural home...

"Home, Home, on the range,

Where moon gods don't feel so strange.

And virgins are waiting and billy goats grazing.

and the imams are happy all day..."


37 posted on 03/18/2005 6:14:53 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: ariamne

"That's him all right. What happened to the tolerance he was preaching to me, specifically??

Taqiyyeh--telling me what he thought would make islam palatable to me.

What a bunch of bull..."

Hey, no deception intended.I do have a fairly tolerant view of some things I believe. But even God has limits and doesn't tolerate EVERY thing, you know?
peace


38 posted on 03/22/2005 1:31:58 PM PST by Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid (REGARDING POSTS 74 and 82: SLANDER AGAINST PROPHET MUHAMMAD)
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To: Fred Nerks

"Tell the Imam I have found their headquarters on Mars."

Er, thanks but WHOSE headquarters? And how is it that you found it when no one else could? Go there often???


39 posted on 03/22/2005 1:34:08 PM PST by Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid (REGARDING POSTS 74 and 82: SLANDER AGAINST PROPHET MUHAMMAD)
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To: Dark Skies

" Hello Ari...is the old Imam still around? I thought that post was years ago...yet I did think you guys were playing the violin quite well together."

Got something against violin music? and who are you calling old?


40 posted on 03/22/2005 1:37:08 PM PST by Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid (REGARDING POSTS 74 and 82: SLANDER AGAINST PROPHET MUHAMMAD)
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