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Judge says DCF can't intervene in Terri Schiavo case
Associated Press ^ | March 10, 2005 | Mitch Stacy

Posted on 03/10/2005 12:22:56 PM PST by amdgmary

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To: Badray
COURT. Singular. One. One court. One judge. A judge who is not impartial. Whether it is his god-like ego or a specific agenda, I don't know, but he is too emotionally involved in this case.

Correct. Many people do not realize it, but an appeals court cannot overturn a trial court finding if it could be justified by looking at all evidence supporting it in the best possible light and all evidence opposing it in the worst possible light. If a judge finds a pathological liar's self-serving testimony to be credible, and the testimony of honest people to be not credible, no appeals court is allowed to question his judgement.

521 posted on 03/11/2005 12:05:37 AM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: jonrick46

Yes, I agree. Jeb Bush SHOULD stick out his political neck, and order a SWAT team to rescue Terri.

If Janet Reno could do it with Elion for the wrong reasons, why can't Jeb Bush do it for the right reasons?


522 posted on 03/11/2005 12:07:13 AM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: All

Evidence surfaces that Michael Schiavo sought information possibly on funeral arrangements for Terri as early as 1993
It was recently discovered (September 2003) that sometime in the year of 1993 a file was completed on Terri Schiavo at a Pinellas County funeral home.

Interestingly enough, it was January of 1993 that over close to a million dollars was deposited in a medical trust fund specifically for Terri’s life-long future rehabilitation and care.

Additionally, it was in the summer of 1993 when Michael Schiavo admitted to trying to withhold antibiotics from Terri knowing that the infection she had would have killed her if it went untreated.

Coincidentally, Michael Schiavo is the inheritor of Terri’s medical trust fund and would have been the recipient of close to a million dollars if Terri would have died in 1993.

October 2002, Michael Schiavo petitions court to have Terri’s body immediately cremated upon her death
October 2002, Michael Schiavo petitioned Judge Greer to have Terri's body cremated immediately upon her death saying that Terri was always afraid of bugs and such, and for this reason would have wanted to be cremated.

http://www.zimp.org/stuff/23%20-%2093Funeral03Cremation.htm

Let's see. Michael withheld Terri's antibiotics when she had an infection which could have caused her death, AND made funeral arrangements, AND wanted her body cremated which would cover up the fact that she had multiple broken bones.

Anybody smell a rat?


523 posted on 03/11/2005 12:14:55 AM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Sun
You put it exactly the way I was trying to say it. There is some kind of legal swamp down there that Jeb is trying to stay out of.
524 posted on 03/11/2005 12:25:48 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: jonrick46

"I AM THE KING OF THE WORLD!!!!!" "judge" Greer


525 posted on 03/11/2005 12:31:56 AM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: flaglady47
Euthanasia is ASSISTING someone in ending their life. Ok. So starving someone is murder?

One thing I know is that there is euthanasia by commission and there is euthanasia by omission. Starving someone is euthanasia by omission. Yes, it is murder, and a ghastly, torturous way to die. Nothing but sheer agony.

No one is making her starve. She is incapable of eating as she is in a persistent vegetative state. If she can pick up a spoon and fork, then she will live. But she can't, can she.

Once again, someone *would* be making Terri starve by withholding nourishment - euthanasia by omission. But if she IS in a PVS, and she choked on food given orally, actually it would be a much faster death than by dehydration. In comparison it would be vastly more merciful! Death by dehydration is really messed up. And if Terri has no cerebral cortex, the part of her brain she still has - the part responsible for her involuntary movements - can still feel pain. So we really can't say that Terri would not feel pain.

By the way, the more people that are killed that way means less parts available for organ donations. The organs actually dry up, and the blood moves to the center of the body. Actually, the only place there is any blood left is in the tongue. I saw a picture. Ew.

What I do have a problem with is Judge Greer ordering that no one feed Terri by mouth. Ordering it twice. She has been fed jello and swallowed it. I was told by another Freeper who agrees with you that that was irrelevant. But it's not.

Yes, I agree with you there.

Yes it is irrelevant. However, it's fine with me if Terri is fed jello. Just make sure it's her parents who feed it to her, as she will choke and die if they attempt it. But it's their call.

I think you make a good point here. Yes, let them take the responsibility, and I said before, it's a lot more merciful for Terri to go fast than die by dehydration.

526 posted on 03/11/2005 12:44:27 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Let me go indulge myself with a bit of chocolate Haagen-Dazs Life Support.)
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To: TAdams8591

YES!

Beaten, choked, abused, neglected, starved, dehydrated, and then cremated immediately. No visitation by family or friends either.

Yeah, I think that is the right order.

God forgive me for thinking what I'm thinking about that POS MS.


527 posted on 03/11/2005 1:48:40 AM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: supercat

Then it falls into the hands of 'We the people' to overturn this conviction and sentence.

I think that she needs to be moved to a safe house out of state.


528 posted on 03/11/2005 1:55:14 AM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: Polyxene

I think Felos is the real devil, Bob Schindler told me that he tells Greer what to do and say.


529 posted on 03/11/2005 3:52:09 AM PST by lilypad
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To: Dog Gone

Felos did an interview yesterday and encourage Michaels supporters to contact their legislatures. How original.


530 posted on 03/11/2005 4:19:59 AM PST by lilypad
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To: supercat

There are many in this forum who say he's doing it for the money. As for prison time, that's already been addressed as well.


531 posted on 03/11/2005 4:54:44 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: jwalsh07

Michael is a guardian, not a guardian ad litem. Those were other people.


532 posted on 03/11/2005 4:56:24 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: DJ MacWoW

The bone scan has been addressed many times over by many, including me. The "violations" of guardianship have been addressed as well. As for Michael being spiteful, I'll agree with that. But I think it's quite a strecth to say he's doing this only for spite.


533 posted on 03/11/2005 5:10:09 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: DJ MacWoW

You're wrong on all counts on this one.


534 posted on 03/11/2005 5:30:16 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: jwalsh07
Now Hammesfahr is a board certified neurologist and was nominated for a Nobel in 1999 for his work.

Hallesfahr claims he was nominated for a Nobel prize. There's a big difference.

535 posted on 03/11/2005 5:33:24 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: jwalsh07
Feb 1993 - Schiavo and Terri's parents have falling out regarding lack of therapy for Terri.

The falling out was over money.

536 posted on 03/11/2005 5:35:12 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: DJ MacWoW

She grew up in PA.


537 posted on 03/11/2005 5:36:34 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: ContraryMary

I guess I came in late. Please refer me to your previous comments about the bone scan and violations of guardianship. I am interested in learning more.


538 posted on 03/11/2005 5:37:20 AM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: eccentric

I believe it's on a different thread. But the results of the bone scan have been posted several times. Also, there is a link to the entire testimony of Dr. Walker(?) who wrote up the results of the scan. You have to read the entire testimony. It does not in any way imply that Michael beat her or strangled her, as many on FR are espousing. It offers several different reasons for the dark spots on the scan. I'll try and find the link later.


539 posted on 03/11/2005 5:57:40 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: ContraryMary
The falling out was over money.

Right, Terris rehabilitation fell out of favor with Michael when the money fell in Michaels lap.

I would agree with that completely.

540 posted on 03/11/2005 6:46:22 AM PST by jwalsh07
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