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Lebanese Assembly Re-elects Pro-Syria Premier Who Quit
The New York Times ^

Posted on 03/09/2005 5:56:06 PM PST by bamaborn

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To: Cyclopean Squid; 1LongTimeLurker
Unless I'm much mistaken, Jumblat the same guy who recently recanted his anti-Iraq war views and said "I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, eight million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world. The Berlin Wall has fallen."

Walid Jumblat | WP | February 24, 2005:"It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq," explains Jumblatt. "I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world." Jumblatt says this spark of democratic revolt is spreading. "The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing. The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it."

61 posted on 03/09/2005 8:38:46 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: bamaborn
I spend a lot of time in Beirut on business - Its a strange construct of a country. The view of the average person in Beirut (whether Muslim or Christian) seems to be a desire for everyone to go away and leave them alone - Palestinians, Syrians, Israelis, Americans. They feel that their own differences and animosities were ratched up by everyone in the region deciding to duke it out in Beirut rather than Damascus, the Golan, Moscow or NY.

Also please don't believe that the Christians there are necessarily pro American.

As for Jumblatt - He is not pro American, or Syrian or Israeli, or even Lebanon. He is pro Druze and will take any stance which he feels it best for his people.
62 posted on 03/09/2005 10:13:06 PM PST by weegie
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To: jveritas
What fraction of Lebanese adults (potential voters) within the country are now Muslim?

How many potential voters are Christian expatriates?

Thanks

63 posted on 03/09/2005 10:43:29 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: SiskiyouSam
A thread that might interest you.
64 posted on 03/09/2005 10:44:16 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Ramius
What an interesting thread! Thanks for all of your insights.

I have to second that. And thanks those who took the time to explain things. How nice to get correct answers from those who are not looking to spin the story. I've got to sit and digest it all.

65 posted on 03/10/2005 12:17:04 AM PST by Fishtalk
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To: bamaborn
Mr.Lahoud and Karami, you should also ask Bush to re-appointed Saddam. You and your Syrian regime have lot of lessons in democracy to give to all over the word. Shame on both of you, Pro-Syrians..........
66 posted on 03/10/2005 4:12:45 AM PST by Pipo
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To: Cyclopean Squid; DoctorZIn; F14 Pilot; Dog; Howlin
The parliament is still a Syrian Rubber Stamp, and Hezbollah's rent-a-demonstration yesterday gave them an excuse to take this measure.

The interesting thing is that Hezbollah felt compelled to have a demonstration vs. operate in their usual manner - terrorism. They're operating with one fist tied behind their back because for the first time in their sorrid history, they're concerned about their standing in world public opinion.

It's the equivalent of a serial murderer, temporarily stopping what he does and now suddenly concerned about "getting a bad reputation".

67 posted on 03/10/2005 4:47:13 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: weegie
Also please don't believe that the Christians there are necessarily pro American.

The majority of them are pro-American.

68 posted on 03/10/2005 5:44:24 AM PST by jveritas
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To: Carry_Okie
In Lebanon the Muslim voting population constitutes approximately 50% and it includes both Shia and Sunni Muslims. The Christians voting population is approximately 40% and the Druze is approximately 10%.

If Lebanese Christians expatriates are added to the voting block, the Lebanese Christians will make over 50% of the voting population in Lebanon.

69 posted on 03/10/2005 5:54:23 AM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas

Amen!


70 posted on 03/10/2005 6:19:58 AM PST by ohioWfan (The trumpet of freedom has been sounded, and that trumpet never calls retreat. (George W. Bush))
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To: jriemer

It is a positive development that Hezbollah demonstrated. Demonstrations are after all a tool of democracies. To those who are depressed about the demonstration, just remember that it changes nothing in the will of George W Bush to kick Syria out of Lebanon. In fact, it probably strengthens his resolve if that's possible!

I've been telling my compatriots not to say anything negative about Hezbollah. Syria would love it if we Lebanese start attacking each other even in words. Syria has been playing us against each other for years. I hope this time we'll keep discipline and focus on Syria.


71 posted on 03/10/2005 8:41:19 AM PST by winner3000
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To: bamaborn

These kind of games were played with great success in the middle east during the 20th century. Syria does not realize things have indeed changed and the Lebanese people are done with the games.


73 posted on 03/10/2005 10:45:37 AM PST by quantfive
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To: antoninartaud
In term of Syria very dismal economy, you are absolutely correct. They have a terrorist regime made of gangs from the Baath party that extort the Lebanese people, the Syrian people, and deal with drugs to make its billions.

Also, are the Christians in Lebanon armed? Do they have access to significant firepower if Syria and Hizbollah try to come after them?

Unfortunately the Lebanese Christians do not have any arms. In fact in 1991 their arms were taken by the Syrian government and its Lebanese puppet government, in a supposed action to disarm all the Lebanese factions and restore the peace in the civil war that the Syrians kept going for 15 years (1975-1990).

Of course they left Hizabllah with all his arms and in fact they got more and more arms and now they are the only armed group in Lebanon. The Syrian terrorist regime and the Lebanese government kept Hizballah arms under the excuse of "resistance against the Israel". In their delusional mind they believe that Hizballah defeated Israel militarily and forced her to withdraw from a small region in Souther Lebanon. Nothing farther from the truth since if Israel believes that staying in Lebanon is vital to them, all the arab armies combined could not move them one inch.

To summarize Syria is always using Hizballah to scare the opposition inside Lebanon, and they can use it as well to destabilize the region by creating troubles on the Lebanese- Israeli borders.

All these deadly games by the Syrian terrorist regime will not work anymore because they have President Bush to deal with now. President Bush will force Syria to withdraw from Lebanon very soon, because it is very crucial for his Greater Middle East project to have a free Lebanon so the wind of freedom will blow all the way in the whole Middle East including Iran and Syria.

74 posted on 03/10/2005 3:40:49 PM PST by jveritas
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To: antoninartaud
Also, the $ that pours into Syria from squeezing Lebanon will dry up and leave Syria with half the funds to cover up their crimes.

And because of this, the Syrian terror regime will fall within a year from when they will be forced to withdraw their troops and their brutal intelligence apparatus from Lebanon.

Nice to meet you too :).

76 posted on 03/10/2005 4:06:37 PM PST by jveritas
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