Posted on 03/06/2005 6:59:01 PM PST by quidnunc
One of my favorite accounts is in JT Glisson's "The Creek". His description of Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings, an outsider, who bought a place in their small community to write about them and capture the "essence" of Crackers/Southerners, is priceless.
"The Creek" sounds interesting. Thanks.
This is addressed to everyone who is Southern born and raised-Do you think that there is a "black South" and a "white South"?
I ask that in all seriousness because I am a native Californian who lived down there three years in the Seventies I used to ponder that a lot.It seemed that in many ways race relations were healthier and more open in the South,unlike much of the North where you can live much of your life not seeing a black face if you are white.
HOWEVER,some things I saw still haunt me today-the after hours club in Beaumont,Texas where white men would go to party with young black women.The time outside Athens,Georgia when on a university affiliated field trip I walked into a white cop and a black cop pulling knives out on EACH OTHER.Observing a Klan rally in Metarie and watching dozens of cars going down Airline Highway spitting and cursing at two lone peaceful black protestors.The time at the Red Caboose restaurant when a large black woman held a steak knife to the neck of a young white teenager after he referred to her school as a "nigger school".The time a NOPD officer pulled a gun on me after a traffic stop and told me to"start running"after he checked my black companion's ID.
I still miss the South.There is a profound beauty and mystery about the region that still fascinates me today.Yet the above incidents and many others made me feel there is still a distinct difference in perspective depending on whether you are black or white.
Feedback please.
I WANT SOME CATFISH AND HUSHPUPPIES!!!!
Ah hushpuppies! Back in '91, we spent a week in South Carolina, and I must have gained 3-5 lbs -- mostly on the hushpuppies!
The South is long, hot summer nights where you can fall asleep to the sound of passing trains or occasional rumbles of thunder.
The South is what will save America from political correctness and Hollywood.
The South is ultimately about redemption.
This Greenberg guy has compared Southern Heritage defenders to Nazis and the poster of this thread is no South lover.
No feedback but just think your post is interesting.
http://minorjive.typepad.com/hungryblues/2004/12/the_southern_st.html
Sure you're not confused with his son? If what you say is true the apple don't fall too far from the tree.
It was Paul Greenberg from Arkansas. I had a row with quidniuc over it.
Quid didn't post this to be sweet.
Sorry, he compared us to Arabs not Nazis.
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1022783/posts
Greenberg is ok at times...like Krauthammer....sort of wishy washy on culture but a hawk.
What an odd comparison.
What you described is all a part of the South--just one South, not two.
There are bad attitudes on both sides of the races. But there can be closeness too. As you said, in the North and other areas of the country you can go a long time without seeing blacks. In the South we grow up side by side.
When I was a child my mother had a black "maid" who helped with the cleaning and cooking (Mom had the four of us children in five years and was just a little stressed by it all). I loved Edna, our maid, and she loved me. I probably spent as much time with Edna as I did with Mom, when I was a baby. So I always had a real love for Edna.
A few years ago I worked for a small newspaper, and my supervisor was a black lady. We had a great time working together, spent half the time laughing. We still call each other every few months to stay in touch.
So what you mentioned does exist in the South--but the other also exists, the love and the caring for one another. And the caring is the part that's never written about in the newspapers or the movies, only the bad.
Also there is an understanding of one another. The Southern blacks are different from the blacks in other parts of the country. (Just as the white people are different.)
Southern white people understand Southern black people, just as Southern black people understand Southern white people. Some problems still exist on both sides, but no one understands the other better.
And yet it all-- the love and the problems-- takes place in one South.
I am the Grand Caliphate btw...lol
if I could only find my harem.
a slight correction in 51
a slight correction in 51
Hey nobody's perfect.
You are Big Daddy!
No, I don't.
Is there a Black California and a White California.
Is Watts a community in LA?
Can you explain why the policemen that beat Rodney King
had to have their trial in Simi Valley?
Did racial problems occur in every major city in the US?
Do incidences still happen to this day in places other than
the South?
If you're wondering if your question annoyed me, it did!
It also caused me to try to remember the number of
Black Persons I even saw in Northern California when
I lived there in the Seventies. I seem to remember it was
very few.
You are Big Daddy
"Well Yeah" He said with a smirk :>)
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