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Some heart recipients report strange changes
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 2/27/05 | Carla McClain

Posted on 03/03/2005 11:52:45 AM PST by Born Conservative

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1 posted on 03/03/2005 11:52:47 AM PST by Born Conservative
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To: MoralSense; Mjaye; The Game Hen; Chesterbelloc; Petes Sandy Girl; MarMema; From many - one.; ...

2 posted on 03/03/2005 11:53:27 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Born Conservative
No offense, but this was already posted. On the 27th IIRC.
3 posted on 03/03/2005 11:55:11 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Born Conservative

note to self - refuse Michael Jacksons heart


4 posted on 03/03/2005 11:58:21 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Condor51

Do you have a link? I didn't find it when I searched.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;s=heart


5 posted on 03/03/2005 12:00:33 PM PST by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Born Conservative

Um, maybe these folks all: (1) feel better with a healthy heart; (2) had a taste of death and now seek to enjoy life and value the important things in life, such as family; and (3) pursue healthy lifestyle and exercise because their doctors told them to do so.

Not to state the obvious, or anthing.


6 posted on 03/03/2005 12:06:51 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: MeanWestTexan
Once upon a time ancestors believed the heart did more than pump blood.
7 posted on 03/03/2005 12:10:17 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998

They also thought the world was flat, the moon was made of green cheese, cargo pants were a good idea, and Jimmy Carter was a fair alternative to Gerald Ford.


8 posted on 03/03/2005 12:14:58 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Born Conservative
Sorry, my bad. (apparently)
I can't find one and I've searched under every key word that would relate to this. But I swear I read this article here on FR a few days ago?!?

hmmm, maybe I have precognition?
Or it's a case of "deja vu all over again." (Yogi Berra)

Again, no offense

9 posted on 03/03/2005 12:16:52 PM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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"For years, efforts were made to keep secret the identities of organ donors, so emotionally explosive was losing one life to save another. But now, they can WRITE LETTERS TO ONE ANOTHER"

How in the heck do they do that?

Through a psyhic?


10 posted on 03/03/2005 12:19:38 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2

Sorry!

PSYCHIC!


11 posted on 03/03/2005 12:20:59 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Born Conservative

bump for later


12 posted on 03/03/2005 12:24:42 PM PST by tom paine 2
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To: Bigh4u2
That is pretty funny.
Especially considering that 'surviving family members' are mentioned second.
13 posted on 03/03/2005 12:27:59 PM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Bigh4u2

I am sure that they meant in cases of kidney transplants and such, where the donor is still living.

(Still, they REALLY could have made that more clear!)


14 posted on 03/03/2005 12:33:54 PM PST by small_l_libertarian (Snuggled back down into my cozy duvet of rage...)
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To: Condor51
No offense taken. And I believe you; sometimes, the same article is a different title.

Although I can't speak from experience (yet), I am skeptical that a recipient takes on the traits of the person who donated the organ.

15 posted on 03/03/2005 12:34:41 PM PST by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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Interesting post. Reminds me of Rupert Sheldrake's theory about a "morphic resonance" in biology across space and time. Sheldrake was an "unorthodox" but credentialed biochemist and cell biologist. In 1981 the British science magazine, Nature described Sheldrake's book, A New Science of Life, as "the best candidate for burning there has been for many years," while the New Scientist called it "an important scientific inquiry into the nature of biological and physical reality." Decide for yourself.

Rupert Sheldrake interview (excerpt):

"DJB: In your book The Presence of the Past you offer the suggestion that memories are not actually stored in the brain, but rather they may be stored in an information field that can be accessed by the brain. If this should prove to be true, do you believe then that human consciousness, our personal memories and sense of self, may survive biological death in some form?

"RUPERT: Well, certainly the idea that memories aren't stored in the brain opens the way for a new debate or new perspective on the question of survival of death. Most people assume memories are stored in the brain, simply because this is the mechanistic paradigm that's very rarely challenged. There's hardly any evidence for memory storage in the brain, as I show in my book, and what evidence there is could be interpreted better in terms of the brain as a tuning system, tuning into its own past. So that we can gain access to our own memories by tuning into our own past states. The brain is more like a TV receiver than like a tape recorder or a video recorder.

"If memories are stored in the brain then there's no possibility of conscious, or even unconscious survival of bodily death, because if memories are in the brain, the brain decays at death, and your memories must be wiped out through the decay of the brain. No form of survival in any shape or form, even through reincarnation, would be possible in such a scenario. That's one reason why materialists are so attached to the idea of memory storage in the brain, because it refutes all religions in a two line argument. But, in fact, there's very little evidence they're stored in the brain.

"So if they're not stored in the brain then the memories won't decay at death, but there'll still have to be something that can tune into them, or gain access to them. So could some tuning system, could some non-physical aspect of the self survive death and still gain access to the memories? That's the big question. I regard it as an open question."

16 posted on 03/03/2005 12:38:16 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Born Conservative

I'm no doctor, but I speculate that these minor personality changes may be more likely due to micro-strokes.


17 posted on 03/03/2005 12:40:15 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Born Conservative
"Fiction," said Dr. Sharon Hunt, heart transplant surgeon at the Stanford University School of Medicine. "There is no science to explain such a thing."

These are the worst of doctors. If they can't explain it, it doesn't exist.

18 posted on 03/03/2005 12:40:48 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Revelation 911

Don't you want to play the piano ?


19 posted on 03/03/2005 12:58:39 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Born Conservative
"Now I love football, baseball, basketball. You name it, I follow it," said Sherman, a psychology student at Arizona State University."


Uhhh -- the Sun Devils made her do it?

Seriously, Jack Copeland is no slouch -- if he cannot dismiss it out of hand, there may be an element of truth to it.
20 posted on 03/03/2005 1:12:43 PM PST by NW Mike (Proud member of the VRWC since 1972 -- who the hell are you calling 'neo'?)
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