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Study finds disproportionate abuse by 'gays'
WorldNet Daily ^ | March 2, 2005

Posted on 03/03/2005 6:55:52 AM PST by NYer

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To: litany_of_lies
http://www.wcuweb.com/Documents/WCULITERATURE/childmolestation.htm

Nice cite.

41 posted on 03/03/2005 1:44:19 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: EdReform
Ed you might find this interesting...related articles.

Particularly this one Tomeo ME, Templer DI, Anderson S, Kotler D.

42 posted on 03/03/2005 1:53:26 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: NYer

Not a surprise. A huge percentage of homosexuals have themselves been abused. And some percentage of the abused go on to abuse.


43 posted on 03/03/2005 2:05:08 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Excellent links! Thanks for the ping!


44 posted on 03/03/2005 2:11:40 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Perhaps we are not arguing about the same thing and thus talking around each other. You see, I thought the argument was whether or not children should be placed for foster care and/or adoption in homes of the openly homosexual. I thought we both agreed that they should not.

Given that, does this study give us anything that we can take to our legislatures and demand that they act upon? If the study proves that children placed in openly homosexual homes are more likely to be abused than children placed in other homes, we should use it. If the abuse occured in what appear from the outside to be heterosexual homes, then we need to be careful that the left doesn't turn this study against us. (And if there is any way they can, they will.)

I do think it is possible to be so zealous for a cause that it becomes tempting to misuse, or even produce, statistics to promote it. Doing this, however righteous and true the cause, is almost always counter-productive. Whether this happened here or not, I don't know. I simply want to know in what kind of home did this abuse occur; does the author of the study know this information; if he doesn't know, why not (was he prevented from finding out this information, for example); if he does know, why is he not telling.

Whether or not this individual study is accurate or not, does not change my mind about the issue. It simply determines whether I am going to pick up a pen and write to my state congressman or not.

If you wish to continue to personally insult me, please reply privately with your email address and I will send you those of my husband and pastor. You can ask them what they think about my feelings on this issue.


45 posted on 03/03/2005 2:36:28 PM PST by wiltale
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Thanks for the links, btw. I promise I will check them out. I had to conclude my last post rather quickly because my four year old needed my attention. I am in the midst of dinner at the moment.


46 posted on 03/03/2005 3:26:28 PM PST by wiltale
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To: Clint N. Suhks; EdReform; scripter; little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K
Homosexuals account for 2% of the population but account for 34% of the child abuse...do you see the huge discrepancy?

Thank you for an excellent analysis of the information provided in this story!

47 posted on 03/03/2005 3:53:39 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: NYer
Thanks for the ping and the summary.

Note this:

Last year, Newman said the DCFS does not "discriminate based on gender, race, sexual orientation, sexual preference. There is no law that says that a gay or lesbian person cannot adopt."

Well, there should be such laws. The fact that very few states (AFAIK, only Florida) have laws prohibiting homosexuals from adopting or foster parenting is criminal in itself.

48 posted on 03/03/2005 4:05:24 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: NYer
aLast year, Newman said the DCFS does not "discriminate based on gender, race, sexual orientation, sexual preference. There is no law that says that a gay or lesbian person cannot adopt."

If there were such a law, it wouldn't stop the gay cabal: it didn't in Texas, where there was such a law.

NATIONAL DESK | November 30, 1997, Sunday Homosexual Foster Parent Sets Off a Debate in Texas

By SAM HOWE VERHOVEK (NYT) 1157 words
Late Edition - Final , Section 1 , Page 20 , Column 5
ABSTRACT - Rebecca Bledsoe, Texas child welfare supervisor, sparks controversy by ordering emergency removal of baby boy from foster parents who are lesbians; bases decision on rarely-enforced 118-year-old statute that makes homosexual activity crime, arguing that those who engage in them should not be considered fit serve as foster or adoptive parents; says foster children placed with gay or lesbian couples do not have parental role model of one sex or another; has been rebuked by state's Department of Protective and Regulatory Services, which quickly overruled her decision to take boy away from Dallas-area woman and demoted her; has become heroine to many conservatives, but target of withering criticism from gay rights advocates; has filed labor grievance; she comments; photo (M)

Rebecca Bledsoe caught a gay-and-lesbian cabal in the act of breaking Texas state law forbidding the placement of children with homosexuals.

She was set upon by the gay cartel and fired out of her job. There is a gay cabal, formerly led by "the Austin 12", close to the center of Texas government, which was then run by Lt. Governor (now Governor) Rick Perry and then-Governor George Bush. Bush later mounted a big outreach effort, under the influence of gay political friends in his inner circle, during the 2000 campaign.

Documentation: Gay Influence and GOP Outreach in the Bush Campaign, 2000.

The man behind the influence:

"Charles Francis, A New Kid On The Block" (2003 Article)

Charles Francis, the founding chairman of the Republican Unity Coalition (RUC), is a relatively new name in gay political circles, but he is rapidly becoming a major player in Washington, D.C.

In his latest triumph, Francis managed to bring Mary Cheney, the Second Family's daughter and a former gay and lesbian outreach operative for the Coors brewery, out of the shadows of Colorado and on to the RUC advisory board. This was Cheney's first venture into the political spotlight since her father took office in January 2001. Francis made overtures to her during the past year, but "she is fiercely independent," he told me in an interview, and she did not respond. Later, she e-mailed Francis, offering her help. Meeting in Denver, the two talked about some of her ideas, which included working hard for gay and lesbian equality as well as reaching out to gay voters for the GOP.

Cheney is only the latest in a series of high-profile Republicans whom Francis has recruited to help him turn around the image of the GOP.

After he had read about former Sen. Alan Simpson's (R-Wyo.) appearance at the candlelight vigil at the U.S. Capitol following Matthew Shepard's murder, Francis called Simpson and asked him to emcee the RUC's inaugural breakfast. Later, he got Simpson to chair RUC's advisory board.

Earlier this year, after reading pro-gay comments by Ford in a column by lesbian journalist Deb Price, Francis called his old friend Trammell Crow, a Texas real estate mogul and a friend of Ford, to help contact the ex-president. He also got Simpson to help him draft a letter to Ford, to which Simpson added a personal note.

And Francis got wealthy former Congressman Michael Huffington (R-Calif.) to offer the RUC $100,000 if other donors would match that amount.

Each time Francis achieves such a coup for RUC, he gets covered in such first-rank outlets as _The Wall Street Journal_ and _The Washington Post_.

With such a star-studded cast of board members, RUC has begun to get into the political money game. The group has raised some $225,000 for Republican candidates for the 2002 election a start toward a goal of $1 million.

The aim of Francis and the RUC is to promote a Republican "big tent" in which homosexuality is a "non-issue." RUC's guiding principles, adopted last year in Cody, Wyoming, strike a delicate balance between a libertarian or conservative stance and an uncompromising pro-gay position: "Neither victim nor villain, we seek no special privilege, but we deplore being penalized." While other gay groups focus on legislation, RUC does not engage in lobbying. Instead, Francis uses fundraising and very good PR to pursue the group's goal.

Francis views the RUC as complementary to, not in competition with, Log Cabin Republicans (LCR). "They are the grass roots, we are the grass tops," he says. For Francis, grass tops means using contacts in the inner political circles of Texas and Washington to get high-profile folks like Cheney, Ford, Simpson, and Huffington to aid the cause.

Francis' relationship with the president which is a major asset for his RUC activities has it roots in Texas, before Bush was governor. Francis' brother Jim chaired Bush's 1994 gubernatorial campaign, when he defeated incumbent Ann Richards (D).

But it was the Bush presidential campaign that prompted Francis' first major political act setting up a meeting of a dozen gay and lesbian Republicans with Bush in Austin. Then Francis organized three well-attended receptions for the campaign, with TV's sharp Republican spinner Mary Matalin touting the Bush-Cheney ticket and proclaiming the gospel that homophobia had no place in the Republican Party.

During Bush's inaugural week, Francis organized a well-attended breakfast and announced the formation of the RUC "to institutionalize what we had learned" in the campaign. He felt "it should be gay-straight, not just gay. We live in the real world, with straights as friends and family."

Though Francis is relatively new to politics, he is not new to achievement. When he was growing up in Dallas, he worked his way up to Eagle Scout, no small accomplishment. After graduating from the University of Virginia, Francis came to Washington to work with the public relations firm of Bob Gray, a fixture in 1980s Washington who also served a stint in the Reagan White House.

For the next 20 years, Francis worked in public relations and public affairs consulting in Washington. "All that time," he says, "I was openly gay, but focused on my own career," with little or no participation in gay political activity. When Bush decided to run for president, Francis says he realized "I could be helpful, for Bush and for the [gay] community like so many gay people have before."

Francis is doing an impressive job helping forge a gay-friendly image for the White House. But the GOP's right-wing homophobes are still alive and well. Antigay activist Peter LaBarbera of the Concerned Women of America's Culture and Family Institute contends that the RUC "will not unify the Republican Party, but tear it apart." And despite RUC's impressive advisory board, most are _former_ members of Congress. Today's Republican kings on the Hill House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott, and most of their power-wielding colleagues are still occupying a very small tent. Charles Francis has his work cut out for him.

_Hastings Wyman publishes Southern Political Report, a nonpartisan biweekly political newsletter. He can be reached care of this publication or at HWymanSPR@aol.com._

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49 posted on 03/03/2005 5:47:37 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: wiltale
Hi, nice to have you aboard.

wiltale
Since Feb 22, 2005

50 posted on 03/03/2005 5:56:53 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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Many thanks! I think I will just go back to quietly lurking now....


51 posted on 03/03/2005 6:01:34 PM PST by wiltale
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