An Example of Chinese Torture: Sexual Abuse

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[Diogenesis]

Well, at least they did not put panties on their heads.

[theDentist]

Bill Clinton will probably print this out and read it late at night when he's alone.

[CzarNicky]

Sounds like an average Thursday in San Fransisco.

[BallandPowder]

Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

What persecution. Where is the MSM in showing these pictures and stories?


The Chinese government must be very afraid of their movement.

[Obadiah]

No this is sick and horrible.

Where is Amnesty International?

Oh that's right, they are only interested in criticizing the United States

Where is the UN?

Oh that's right, Kofi and company are too busy counting their food for oil money.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #5

They are afraid of it more than U.S.

[yoe]

This was very hard to read. Where is the outrage from all those Human Rights organizations like the one suing Secretary Rumsfeld for "alleged" abuses - the ones he had nothing to do with. Where is the United Nations and the ACLU on this truly criminal abuse of innocent people engaged in a philosophical practice. Why is China not removed from MFN list?

Send this article to any Human Rights organization you can find and suggest they do something serious about this abuse in China rather than punch at shadows and the other inane complaints just for politics.

[TNCMAXQ]

Only the evil USA is capable of these atrocities, so the "human rights" organizations only protest our actions.

God help us all.

[lafroste]

Yo, Hold on and slow down a second guys. The comments I read before this post indicate a wholesale acceptance and lapping up of this stuff. Look at that first "picture" the drawing at the top of the article. Doesn't that stike you as the sort of quality image from the "Police Gazette" of the 1950's?

I don't believe any of this for a minute. And even if there is a grain of truth buried in here somewhere, the wanton evil and bloodlust it describes is in no way characteristic of any Chinese I have ever met (and I know a lot of them).

The picture of the young lady with the massive bruises could have been caused by anything (like a motorcycle accident for example).

I'm not saying that the Chinese are angels, they are clearly not. But this is propagandist bull$hit and I'm surprised that the usually critical thinkers at FR aren't using their well honed thinking skills to analyze this.

[Syntyr]

Sarcasm on/
That's it lets outsource the prisoners at Gitmo to these folks!
/Sarcasm off

Seriously sick individuals. I know it's a power thing but I just never have been able to understand how a man can get off by raping a woman. Especially these sickos that rape 70 and 80 year old grandma or kids. These people need to be Dawrined out of the gene pool!

[stuartcr]

At least they have favored nation status...

[CGTRWK]

I believe it, on an incident specific level. China is a huge country, with a population that large there will be bad apples.

Presenting only the bad apples is obviously propogandist bull and not reflective of the big picture, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

If you go looking for it hard enough, you can find wanton evil and bloodlust in police officers right here. Look up Abner Louima or Lester Siler. Behavior like that isn't characteristic of any American I've ever met, but it happens.

[yoe]

Look at that first "picture"......from a Chinese comic book or one of their cheap hand outs?

I went to the ( Falun Dafa page) and they seem to concur with this report. I would really like to know if indeed there is truth to this – as written, it is beyond awful.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #10

There were many nice Russians in Soviet Union. That does not imply that no brutalities committed in Lubyanka or no gulag exist.

Falun Gong is feared by Chinese regime because it perceives the sect can endanger the regime's hold on power.

China has its totalitarian apparatus of oppression. It will not hesitate to use the apparatus to subversive individuals.

If you base your opinion of Chinese regime on Chinese you meet in America, you are truly naive.

[lafroste]

I agree that on an individual level, one can find all manner of horrors in any large country (see Jeffry Dahmer). But this article implies that these practises are institutionalized standard operating procedures intended to terrorize the populace in to sheep like compliance with dictatorial rule. That is what I do not believe. The Chinese system can be harsh, and it can be corrupt, but in my experience, it is also attempts to be fair (after its own form), and it attempts to govern with the rule of law. It has a long way to go, but sanctioned behaviour like this, if it exists at all, exists in defiance of the actual will of the political leaders.

China is emerging, it is a fascinating thing to see. I was talking with a young lady from Guangzhou just a few weeks ago who was complaining that she wasn't "free" because she had to go to work every day. That's not much of a complaint.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #13

I do not think it is the problem of isolated police brutalities. Chinese regime is particularly brutal on this sect. In Chinese history, pseudo-religious sects are usually the ones which brought down dynasties. It is about regime survival.

Besides, don't you remember what Chinese regime did to demonstrators in Tienanmen Square, in 1989? They ran over people using tanks. Didn't you see the crushed remains of a demonstrator? That was the first time I saw a human meat pie.

[lafroste]

I base my assessment of the Chinese based on my travels in China. Most Chinese I know are in China, not the US.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #18

Yeah, I doubt Chinese in China will tell you something like this casually. People do not complain about the state in front of foreigners. If you are a common thief, you may not get this kind of treatment. However, this is the anti-state crime.

[ThisLittleLightofMine]

I think it is somewhat extreme but I believe it is an accurate portrayal of the Chinese leaders/police, I believe you mislead yourself to believe otherwise. After Tienanmen Square how could we believe otherwise?