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Duty Calls: It certainly calls Elizabeth II – but what about her eldest son? (Monarchy's twilight?)
National Review | March 14, 2005 | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 03/02/2005 10:19:33 AM PST by quidnunc

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1 posted on 03/02/2005 10:19:34 AM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
OFF!, With their Heads!..it was, so much easier in the 1500s.
2 posted on 03/02/2005 10:28:06 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: MadIvan

FYI..a good read..


3 posted on 03/02/2005 10:40:15 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: skinkinthegrass

"OFF!, With their Heads!..it was, so much easier in the 1500s."

Not really. You would have been far more likely to lose your own head at the monarch's behest in the 1500s than to be able to even speak aloud, much less act on, a desire to off the monarch!


4 posted on 03/02/2005 10:41:24 AM PST by VRWCisme
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To: quidnunc

Remember Wm F Buckley's novel,whe the American spy has an affair witht he soon to be British queen?


5 posted on 03/02/2005 10:41:42 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: ken5050

He knows zero about King George V - a man who literally saved the country. It's not well known, but in 1931, Ramsay McDonald was forced to enact spending cuts because of the Great Depression. However, he couldn't summon a majority to do it and so went to the King to resign. However, George V knew that if McDonald was replaced by a Tory who would enact the spending cuts, class warfare might ensue. He persuaded McDonald to stay on.

After the spending cuts, the Royal Navy mutinied. The government panicked and King George V took personal control - he sent an envoy to deal with the mutineers, and order was restored.

Dull and uninteresting? Hardly - a pillar of strength. Just because we cannot see the value of monarchy at the moment, does not mean it didn't have value in the past and value that could come into play in the future.

Regards, Ivan


6 posted on 03/02/2005 10:46:01 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: quidnunc

Good post.

Dr. D is correct about the monarchy. It appears to be going the way of all flesh...and so it should.

Cheerio old top!


7 posted on 03/02/2005 10:46:53 AM PST by RexBeach (Keep CHRIST In Christmas - Or I'll Hit You With A Cream Pie!)
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To: VRWCisme
..a desire to off the monarch!

Well, I was speaking in general terms...the public in general, the Gossip Press specifically.

8 posted on 03/02/2005 10:51:18 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: quidnunc

Sleeping Beauty, Tom Thumb, and Quasimodo were all talking one day.

Sleeping Beauty said, "I believe myself to be the most beautiful girl in the world."

Tom Thumb said, "I must be the smallest person in the world."

Quasimodo said, "I absolutely have to be the ugliest person in the world."

They decided to go to the Guinness Book of World Records to have their claims verified.

Sleeping Beauty went first and came out looking deliriously happy. "It's official, I AM the most beautiful girl in the world."

Tom Thumb went next and emerged triumphant, "I am officially the smallest person in the world."

Sometime later, a confused-looking Quasimodo came out and said, "Who is Camilla Parker Bowles?"


9 posted on 03/02/2005 11:02:58 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: MadIvan; quidnunc
I think our fellow FReeper - quidnunc - must have been hit with a polo stick or bitten by a corgi. He never misses an opportunity to trash the Royal Family.

LOL!

10 posted on 03/02/2005 11:18:28 AM PST by Churchillspirit
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The British monarchy only survived into the 20th century as the embodiment of British public school values.

It seems to me that the British system was based on a romanticization of the kind of collective child-rearing the Spartans practiced, where boys were taken from their families and raised in barracks to turn them into hardened warriors... and emotional cripples. The upside of all that emotional deprivation and steely emotional control is to convince you that you are a stronger, superior being to the soft people around you who have feelings. The downside is it makes you insufferably arrogant.

And what if you really aren't superior ? When the Spartans were smashed by the Thebans at Leuctra, when they saw that their system really didn't make them stronger, when they learned that free men can outfight militarists didn't they question the price in human suffering their system asked of them ? What is all that stiff upper lip emotional deprivation worth to be king of a minor power ? What was all that sacrifice and loneliness for since you're not really superior ?

Charles strikes me as a man who feels cheated out of a childhood, out of a normal life, out of the simple freedom to marry the woman he loves, and for what ?


11 posted on 03/02/2005 11:28:08 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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What garbage. The Queen and the Royal family have always been our best friends and most loyal supporters. After 9/11 she demanded that our national anthem be played, which was the first time in the history of the Empire an anthem of a foreign nation was played officially.

The Royals are extraordinary people who have dedicated their entire lives to charity and public service. The Left has been trying to abolish it for decades and with it...English history and tradition.

For a conservative publication to print something so vile about this incredible family is disgusting.

12 posted on 03/02/2005 11:36:01 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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With Charles marrying Camilla - I can see the Brits revolting about Charles being King. I get the impression a lot of Brits still blame Charles for Diana's death.

I can't help but wonder if Charles will be passed over and William will become King. Would the Brits be happier if they saw William taking the throne as somehow justice for Diana ..??


13 posted on 03/02/2005 11:42:27 AM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: Deb; quidnunc

Thank you for your post. You hit the nail on the head. The only people in the UK who do not like the Royals are the socialist. The same people who banned Fox hunting and introduced the liberalisation in our schools.


14 posted on 03/02/2005 11:54:40 AM PST by kingsurfer
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Churchillspirit wrote: I think our fellow FReeper - quidnunc - must have been hit with a polo stick or bitten by a corgi. He never misses an opportunity to trash the Royal Family.

No, I was hit with a reality stick and bitten by the realization that a majority of the British public — left, right and center — hates President Bush.

Brits apparently feel free to meddle in our elections and generally trash America, but have an almighty Brit snit fit if the hostility is reciprocated.

15 posted on 03/02/2005 11:57:12 AM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: MadIvan

I don't think they make Royals like they used to, Ivan.


16 posted on 03/02/2005 11:57:34 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: quidnunc
her eldest son? The Monarchy's

twilight?


17 posted on 03/02/2005 11:59:45 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: quidnunc

Most Britains view the US as both good and bad. They view their country in the same way. Both have positives that outwiegh the negatives and that is the general consensus.
Focusing on the negatives only is inane.

You could post some threads about the British troops that have served in Afghanistan and Iraq or how the Queen has gone out of her way to send her best wishes to the US after 9/11, even knighting Giulani or how we are at the fore-front of technology or medicine or anything except constant brit-baiting.


18 posted on 03/02/2005 12:03:59 PM PST by kingsurfer
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As you know, Blair and the Labour party has been chipping away at the Royals and English culture for years. Dry-docking the Britannia (too expensive). Moth-balling the Queen's train (also,too expensive). And demanding taxes, open house castle tours and the general degradation of everything Royal.

The day the Left succeeds in ending the monarchy will be the day the English tourist industry takes a nose-dive and with it goes the economy of the UK.

When I go home to the Isle of Man, I plan on wearing a t-shirt that says: KILL A FOX FOR CHRIST!

19 posted on 03/02/2005 12:05:12 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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That Prince Charles is outspokenly anti-American is a not-too-well-kept secret.

Becasuse of his Muslim sympathies he was purposely not scheduled for any American visits because his posse was afraid that he would say something which would cause a diplomatic incident.

20 posted on 03/02/2005 12:05:34 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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