Confederate flag draws protests from Allouez, WIS residents

Duluth Superior ^ | Feb. 27, 2005 | APWire

[Modernman]

I hope you DO visit Texas. I will enjoy watching someone open a good old-fashioned can of whoop-*ss on you the minute you open your ignorant mouth.

I've been to Texas several times. I've even debated this topic with Texans and other Southerners. They were, to a man, able to discuss this like civilized adults, without the threat of violence. You, on the other hand, seem to exhibit the qualities of a liberal. If someone says something you do not like, you favor silencing them with violence.

Yes....you are everything I EVER expected in a Yankee.

And you are everything I expect from a neo-confederate wallowing in the ass-whopping his ancestors received over a century ago.

Thankfully, your kind is looked down upon by the normal, decent people of Texas and the rest of the South.

[TwoBit]

"I've wondered about that, too. I've seen a few TV commercials that had the General Lee, & it's always been placed on top of a car hauler so the Stars & Bars can't be seen....will they eventually paint it over???"
I know it rolls off the tongue easily, but.....
Excuse me, but the Southern Cross seen on the top of the car in the Dukes IS NOT and NEVER HAS BEEN the "Stars and Bars".
Imagine the Stars and Stripes with 3 stripes (those would be BARS) same blue field...fewer stars. The Stars and Bars LOOKS LIKE the Stars and Stripes! That's why Beauregard asked the Cary sisters and cousin to sew the Battle Flag in the first place, because the First National(Stars and Bars) was confused with Old Glory on the battlefield.

[stand watie]

the 2d National, to my knowledge, was SELDOM if ever, flown on the battlefield. it WAS flown on government buildings and on SHIPS (where it looked too much like a surrender flag, if the wind was down).

free dixie,sw

[TexConfederate1861]

How would a Scallawag Yankee like yourself have any idea what Texans think about me? I am VERY well respected in my community. Mainly as a historian, and a teacher. As for discussing matters respectfully, you started by insulting Southerners from the START. So don't try to teach that lesson Yank, because "that dog won't hunt". As for being a "Neo", well, that is the only name you ignorant uneducated types from the north throw when you can't win a debate. You know very little of history, and what you know is flawed. Hide behind your PC, my brainless northerner. And be scared. because I am a true conservative, one that believes in the Constitution as it was written, mainly by Southerners. And keep your warped, silly-*ss ideas where somebody cares.

[Modernman]

How would a Scallawag Yankee like yourself have any idea what Texans think about me?

If they're smart, educated Texans, I imagine they laugh at you, just like any other smart, educated American would. They can't help themselves, it's a natural response.

As for being a "Neo", well, that is the only name you ignorant uneducated types from the north throw when you can't win a debate

Word to the unwise: "Neo" means "new." Calling you a neo-Confederate is not calling names, it's an accurate description. I'll try to use simpler words from now on, when posting to you.

You know very little of history, and what you know is flawed.

Typical complaint of a historical revisionist.

And keep your warped, silly-*ss ideas where somebody cares.

I'll keep them on Free Republic. I enjoy exposing you neo-Confederates for what you are: deluded fools dreaming of a glorious past that never existed.

[TexConfederate1861]

First: I know more Latin than you will ever guess, and I am quite aware of what "Neo"means.

Second: I am quite well educated, holding a Masters Degree in History.

Third: The fact that you don't know history has nothing to do with revisionism....You stated the Union Army never attempted to invade Texas. You proved your ignorance. They ATTEMPTED at least 4 times. If you need proof, I will be happy to provide proof.

Fourth: By all means stay around. So will I, and I will expose you for what you are everytime.

Please respond and challenge my knowledge of History. I will enjoy humiliating you :)

[AgentS]

First of all, it's not private property if it's a business site (that'd be kinda hard to get customers don't you think?). Of course, legally, the owner can put up whatever the hell he wants on his front lawn of his home (which would be private property). Pretty much, it's the most blatant display of racism in Wisconsin I've ever seen. It is definitely not meant for historical context. Otherwise, why did this happen: The display was like this for about two weeks after Chai Vang got git (oh yes, the Midwest is very sad). Where's all the other flags, to show all the proud history of America? That just shows how sad racism is in Wisconsin. An Allouez alderman recently admitted to racist comments he made to a radio show. We're talking about a very bigoted region. The reason the Confederate flag is offensive is because it IS a symbol. To those offended, it represents hatred, bigotry, oppression. Any white person who feels their history being attacked is understandable, but in modern times, I'd think you'd have enough courtesy for your fellow human being to understand why it is an offensive symbol. The "get-over-it" mentality is pretty self-serving to a white person, never accounting for his own history (how it effects others and ultimately himself)... If there was anyone who has oppressed you in your life that would blatantly display their hatred for you, I don't think you would take it lightly either. And to show how dramatic they can be, the flag was taken down after effective public criticism, only to be put back up after self-serving conspiracy (that's what they do best). It's sad. I am ashamed to live amongst these people who claim to be so dang righteous.

[TexConfederate1861]

hehe :)

[RavenATB]

This is the sort of ignorance one should expect from that side of the "Cheddar Curtain."

[RavenATB]

"I don't think it's necessarily wrong for people to be offended by the battle flag of a revolt that tore the nation apart and cost hundreds of thousands of lives."

I'm amused that you would place blame for the bloodshed only on those in the south. Have you somehow come to the conclusion that the southern states decided to succeed and then launched an attack against the north?

No! The forces of the North invaded the south and started a war, killing hundreds of thousands of citizens, in order to enforce the north's preferred set of boundaries.

That is a fact.

[RavenATB]

"It's also laughable how people who want others to see this particular cause in the most positive light are so quick to pile on and attack the entire state of Wisconsin because someone there complained about this flag. "

Don't sell Wisconsin short. There are a great many reasons to "pile on and attack" the entire state Badger State. This is only one.

[Rebelbase]

I guess we should have sympathy for those British people who are offended by the sight of an American Flag. That was one hell of a rebellion.

[Rebelbase]

"I am ashamed to live amongst these people who claim to be so dang righteous."

Get over it.

[Non-Sequitur]

Rebellion implies an effort to overthrow washington, which simply wasn't the case.

No, rebellion is defined as "open, armed, and usually unsuccessful defiance of or resistance to an established government." A reasonable description of the southern actions.

[Rebelbase]

"Cheddar Curtain."

ROTF!

[Non-Sequitur]

Just because you want to fly your confederate flag in areas of the country that participated in the rebellion, why should you expect it to be welcomed with the same enthusiasm in areas that fought against you? You want to fly it in Dixie, fine. Don't force it on the rest of us.