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Man Tasered By Police In Salad Bar Dispute (Chuck E. Cheese)
The Denver Channel ^ | 3/1/5

Posted on 03/01/2005 11:04:12 AM PST by socal_parrot

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To: pgkdan
"I agree. I come from a police family and I know a hundred good cops...I also know a whole lot of bullies in uniform who should never be allowed on the streets with a badge and a weapon. This guy sounds like one of the bullies. The fact that they hauled the guy off with no concern about his small children, who were left behind is especially disconcerting to me." - pgkdan

You are right... There are good law enforcement officers and bad ones, just like there are good and bad in every other profession and group. I also come from a law enforcement family and agree with your statement above up to the "This guy sounds like..." part. Stay with me on this for a moment...

Remember that there truly are two sides to every story. This one was a news story from "The Denver Channel"... Why are news programs/papers produced? The money derived from the advertisers... What causes people to view news stories (more viewers=higher advertising income)? Controversy... What is one of the most controversial subjects right now where law enforcement is involved? Tasers. Could be that this story made it to the public eye simply because a Taser was involved... Could be that the story was spun a bit to make it more controversial. Could be that the incident was much worse that what was printed and truly does deserve to be discussed in a public forum. Only those that witnessed the incident really know what happened. Do we really get both complete sides of the story from the news? Think about Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, and Tom Brokaw before you answer...

In this case we have a police spokesperson telling their side, and a "witness" stating a different version. Which side is telling the truth? None of us really know... LEO's, the arrestee, the witness, all, none of them?

I've heard a LEO brag about kicking a handcuffed man until his left leg got tired, so he had to switch to his right. (Sickening.) I've also heard people say that all LEO's are crooks, and they base that on the fact that they are continually arrested on DUI's to which they plead guilty in front of the judge due to the video evidence against them. They don't like LEO's because the LEO's do their job and cause the lawbreaker to suffer for the lawbreaker's poor judgment. What we do know is that there are good and bad LEO's out there, and there are people out there that lack any common sense continuously getting into trouble. Which was it in this case? The article doesn't give enough information... and if it did, was the article truthful? Was it spun one way or the other? It is for that reason, that I will just read it and take it at face value.

BTW... It is common practice when arresting a parent or guardian (provided no other parent or guardian is on the scene to take custody of the children) for the police to contact family or a trusted friend of the arrestee to have them come to the scene and take custody of the children. The article states that the children were picked up by a relative... Not that the police hauled off their dad and abandoned them.

In this day and age of people labeling all LEO's as jack booted thugs, I think we all need to make sure that we take into account strictly the information provided and have a discussion. Speculation can run rampant and skew the discussion to the point that continuance is a waste of time.

Regards,
Raven6

121 posted on 03/01/2005 12:46:30 PM PST by Raven6 (“The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. ")
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To: takenoprisoner
That could very well be the result of allowing moral-liberalism to continue to rule our culture. It thwarts people's ability to self-govern themselves successfully. We would also have to unilaterally disarm our nuclear weapons, and take our stand among the other banana republics.
122 posted on 03/01/2005 12:47:49 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: One Proud Son
Oh, you mean with all the soccer moms and the giant mouse? If he wanted to handle the situation reasonably he would have put his kids down at a table with a pizza and stepped toward the door to talk where the kids were probably still in sight.

Of course,then this roid head cop would then charge him with child neglect.

Cops like this one reflect badly on the 10% who are decent.

123 posted on 03/01/2005 12:50:35 PM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Altamira

"Either arrest the guy for suspicion of theft, or leave him the hell alone."

I think that's what they did. They arrested him. Besides, cops just don't shove people down in front of a crowd at Chuckie Cheese's. If the guy thought the cops did wrong, he should have gone along with them and taken the matter up later. By refusing to walk outside, he effectively resisted arrest.


124 posted on 03/01/2005 12:51:38 PM PST by One Proud Son
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To: Trailerpark Badass; freebilly

From henceforth and throughout the realm, King TrailerBilly Badfreeass has declared that since Hillary shills children to further her liberal agenda, therefore no one is to be allowed to express any valid concern for them.


125 posted on 03/01/2005 12:52:08 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: One Proud Son
Besides, cops just don't shove people...

Thanks for the laugh.

126 posted on 03/01/2005 12:52:42 PM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ko_kyi
You are absolutely right. I have been verbally abused by the police before. There was an accident on a very busy narrow street close to my house. You couldn't see the car cause it was over a small embankment. There were 3 policemen standing by the road talking and no one directing traffic. So I proceeded slowly down the street when a cop jumped in front of my car screaming at me to stop. Then he slammed his fist down on the hood of my car and started yelling at me. I apologized and told him I didn't see the wreck. He turned to the other 2 policemen and started making fun of me and mocking me. He didn't tell me where I should turn or anything and I was a fraid to move. I finally cut through a parking lot. I am a grandmother and not at all dangerous. LOL

Another case comes top mind. My ex sister in law was trying to tend to her baby and drive at the same time and wound up running a red light and hitting a police car. The cop said oh don't worry. It was an accident and I'll take care of it. Well he did and then proceeded to follow her around and try to get something going with her. Her husband sent her to the store and then followed and watched and sure enough, here came the cop. My Brother in law filmed the whole thing and threatened to turn it over to the department if he didn't knock it off. He never bothered her again.

127 posted on 03/01/2005 12:52:57 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Dan,

I think the taser probably saves a lot of lives and prevents broken bones and severe beatings. Think about it. If the cops do not have tasers in their arsenal then to control somebody who is becoming confrontational they must resort to their club. If you are a 125 lb. female officer confronting a 260 lb. drunk in a bar you might feel a club is inadequate and resort to using your gun. Now, if I were a roudy drunk I think I would prefer being tasered rather than beaten or shot. JMHO.


128 posted on 03/01/2005 12:54:40 PM PST by daviscupper
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To: ActionNewsBill

Partial omission and subjective editing of quotes is what's wrong with the media today.


129 posted on 03/01/2005 12:55:01 PM PST by One Proud Son
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To: cjshapi

Zapped him in the garbonzos ping.


130 posted on 03/01/2005 12:56:37 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Junior

Nothing worse than numb garbonzos!

Although an afternoon at a crowded Chuck E. Cheese sounds almost as bad!


131 posted on 03/01/2005 12:58:14 PM PST by cjshapi
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To: One Proud Son
Exactly. There was the militia nutcase Me-ocrat in Ohio who was speeding one day and pulled over by the police. He refused to hand over his driver's license, and drove off, mumbling that there's a maritime fringe on the land-based flag, and therefore all laws are unconstimatooshal do not apply to him. The police chased. He eventually bailed out of his car with his guns blaring, and killed an officer before he himself was shot dead.

The usual anti-cop hystericals wailed that the poor man "was killed by the police simply because he was speeding."

132 posted on 03/01/2005 12:58:52 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Idisarthur
According to you cops are a--holes?

Not all of them, but yes, some of them are.

133 posted on 03/01/2005 1:01:57 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: Nate1984
But why appease the cop when the cop is in the wrong? Maybe to avoid the pain for the time being, but these cops don't have the right to just taser people whenever they feel they aren't commanding enough respect. Such ego is a dangerous trait when you have a gun and a sense of being above the law. Just ask the electrified cherry tomatoes if you don't believe me.

I just have to tell this. Here in my hometown, an entire family was arrested and the father tased. One of the sons observed an officer speeding and followed him to see where he was going. The officer pulled in a fast food joint and started in. The young man informed him that he had been speeding. The cop arrested him and he called his mother who came to the scene with the young mans teen aged brother. The officer began verbally assaulting the mother and poking his finger in her chest so the teen began to yell at the cop to stop hitting his mother. He arrested all 3 and hauled them off to jail. The father was then called and he came out to the jail and wanted to know what in the heck was going on. He was tased and arrested, too.

134 posted on 03/01/2005 1:08:01 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
The taser should be eliminated from the police dept.

Yep, just use a gun and get it over with. / sarcasm>

135 posted on 03/01/2005 1:08:19 PM PST by Texas Mom
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To: beckysueb

LOL. At least they all got arrested as a family


137 posted on 03/01/2005 1:12:39 PM PST by Nate1984
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To: The Chief
After reading this far and watching the back and forth going on by those who seem to read more into this than the article provides, maybe you can clear up one detail; how does the salad bar work?

Does one pay first and then get a plate or is one expected to pay at the end of the line?

139 posted on 03/01/2005 1:17:34 PM PST by Old Professer (A man's conscience is like his garden, it is his and his alone to tend.)
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To: Nate1984

Yep. Thats definitely doing things together as a family. They were a very well respected local family, though, and they had the charges dismissed and the cop wound up looking like a fool. He was speeding and got offended by someone telling him so. He should have just told the kid to mind his own business but he used his status as a cop to get revenge.


140 posted on 03/01/2005 1:18:27 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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