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Hutterite colony in court over Medicaid coverage
Billings Gazette ^ | February 28, 2005 | A.P.

Posted on 02/28/2005 4:26:16 PM PST by Graybeard58

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Gimme Gimme Gimme

I still want a free pony.

1 posted on 02/28/2005 4:26:16 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

This will just hasten the bankruptcy of Medicare.


2 posted on 02/28/2005 4:30:58 PM PST by Ken522
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To: Graybeard58

The colony could purchase insurance, like the rest of us.


3 posted on 02/28/2005 4:31:47 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: Graybeard58

Surprising to find this among the Hutterites.


4 posted on 02/28/2005 4:33:46 PM PST by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred....is back!)
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To: Graybeard58
Medicaid - the $300 billion healthcare program

This is a program that seriously needs reform. There are newborns born premature (because of Moms on drugs) who are severly disabled, those cases alone cost medicaid $100K to $500K first few months of their lives.

5 posted on 02/28/2005 4:33:53 PM PST by stopem (Support the troops yellow ribbon purse-key-holders.)
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To: Graybeard58
"They don't own anything," Bozeman attorney Kent Kasting said of the women. "They can't -- they come into the world with nothing."

And "they" can leave that way. Welcome to the consequences of free choice.

7 posted on 02/28/2005 4:39:54 PM PST by tahiti
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40 grand makes a person ineligible for medicaid I do believe.

They seem to barter and the worth of their work isn't income. I don't know about tax issues but I do know that medicaid won't let you keep a nest egg and get benefits. You have to spend down your money.

Interesting, it was all women who sued and hide behind their husbands. And the story of not having money for groceries,,is that something they think most people who work don't face at times. This is a ploy to "not have anything to do with the government" and get aid at the same time.


8 posted on 02/28/2005 4:43:40 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: Graybeard58

The Hutterites are a bit repressive. And they, like certain groups like getting things they did not pay for.


9 posted on 02/28/2005 4:47:14 PM PST by FreedomHasACost
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To: tahiti

Interesting thought.

If you willingly decide not to work for wages or money, if you scorn that and live communally, should you get the benefits that "poor" get. Now we can argue all day long if the poor act like they can't get a job or not. But these people admit it, are proud of it, can work and do work, just not for money. Should they get the benefit of the deserving poor when they are penniless by choice.


10 posted on 02/28/2005 4:47:15 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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"Welcome to the consequences of free choice"

I wish more people would understand that basic concept. If you are to live in a world and be allowed to make decisions then you must be willing to live with the consequences because things don't just happen but are rather results of choices.
11 posted on 02/28/2005 4:50:26 PM PST by FreedomHasACost
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To: Graybeard58; Southack; Cobra64; 1_Inch_Group; HiJinx; PilloryHillary; ken5050

Fascinating! Considering that the group's assets are in farmland/real estate so they can be largely self-sustaining...these women probably could argue that if Mexican women can enfranchise themselves here by childbirth, why could not American citizens obtain the same level of medical services as the illegals who come here for childbirth anchoring? (BTW I'm not condoning this)

And recalling Waco! -- will some activist Judge lay the groundwork for IRS or other seizure of private property, for eminent domain or medical bill lien/levy/reimbursements? (I'm DEFINITELY not condoning this.)

Much to ponder here.


12 posted on 02/28/2005 4:52:53 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Blurblogger

Well, now maybe if they get bill, they can do what the rest of us do about bills. Somebody on the commune can hitail it into town and get a job to pay it off, or they can sell some of their veggies, or take in ironing.

Amazing, people do make money to pay bills.


13 posted on 02/28/2005 4:58:26 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: Blurblogger

medical bills go to collection every day and liens are placed on property when bills aren't paid. do you object to bills being collected?


14 posted on 02/28/2005 4:59:51 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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Govt. Bills being paid.....

Legitimate Govt. debts should be paid. By everyone, including illegals. Due process is mandatory.

I do not want to encourage any "abolish the IRS, it's illegal" posts here. Just to say yes, the government should collect.

But without tanks under Kammandantur Janet Reno-Clinton


15 posted on 02/28/2005 5:08:53 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Blurblogger

I never heard of the government collecting a bill with tanks. And Reno wasn't collecting bills at Waco.


16 posted on 02/28/2005 5:10:13 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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Didn't say that was the case. But it was a religious group, on a private communal site. Those are the parallels I was drawing.

I regard a context of aggressive conversion of land to ecological reserves, state parks, Clinton's conversion of federal parks to UN sites and recent escalation in eminent domain activism by government against private propertyholders relevant here as well. You may not. That's OK.


17 posted on 02/28/2005 5:19:51 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Graybeard58
But attorneys for Rita, Anna, Bertha, Sarah, Marie and Judith Hofer and Mary Wollman,....

It sounds like 6 out of 7 of these women are from the same family. That's hardly a Hutterite conspiracy, however, I am sure all of them will hop on the bandwagon it they succeed.

A question I have: If neither they nor their husbands ever paid in, why should they get anything now?

18 posted on 02/28/2005 5:25:28 PM PST by Tamar1973 (The path to conservative brilliance starts at Free Republic!)
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I don't think paying in is a requirement to receive medicaid.

Old enough, poor enough, disabled enough - you get it.

19 posted on 02/28/2005 5:29:54 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Blurblogger

Well, Of course I remember what you are talking about.

But this is not that in my opinion.


20 posted on 02/28/2005 5:45:06 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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