Posted on 02/27/2005 6:43:24 PM PST by zeugma
Good for him! I'd love to see him win. I remember when "your papers, please" was a standard element of anti-communist propaganda... and I'm not all that old.
OK...
Boo hoo. So maybe he gets the Supreme Court to mandate a more open set of laws governing airport security.
That'll be fixed in about, oh, A DAY. In fact I'll bet the Supreme Court will give the Congress and President the leeway to take care of it before they throw the airport system into a frenzy.
Please excuse me if I don't shed a tear if someone doesn't feel like identifying himself before boarding an airplane. I'm sure Mohammed Atta would have appreciated that privilege too.
Turn in your conservative membership card.
The first element of the rule of representative government is that the people have the right to actually know the laws that they must follow.
The second is that they have the right for representation in the making of those laws.
Both were violated here.
It's a no-brainer. If there's a problem on the plane, they need to know who is on it. Of course, if this man had his way, an escaped murderer could just buy a ticket and fly off. Also, the airlines could require the ID, even if the government didn't.
Congratulations to John Gilmore, a real American.
I wonder if it would be possible to have the police and TSA employees deported for violating their oath to support the U.S. Constitution and as a result of being fraudulently naturalized due to that violation.
Proving the point that you are not at the mercy of the government might be a stronger form of protest than trying to prove that you are.
OK...
That's ok lowoil, we don't expect drug warriors to support the Bill of Rights anyway.
Yeah, Riiight. That is why they are fighting this so hard, when it could be fixed soooo easily.
Gilmore has it right. It wasn't as if we didn't know who Mohammed Atta was.
The whole idea of internal passports is wrong. It has the potential to turn us all into slaves. If the government knows everywhere you have been, what you have bought, and from who, no one is safe, and everyone can be found guilty of some law, some where, some time.
With our increasing technology, that is where internal passports leads.
" Court of Star Chamber " comes to mind.
Sure, the airlines could require that. But, there is stiff competition among the airlines. One would start to *not* require ID. People would fly it or not, and we would see if there was a market for it.
So? That was the case for ohh... 70 years, and it didn't kill us.
Tyranny is always justified with an appeal to safety. I'd rather be a little less safe and a little more free. You can fly the airline that requires ID. I'll fly the one that doesn't, or accepts private ID that the company vouches belongs to an American Citizen without a felony conviction.. or any of a thousand market alternatives that would do the job as well or better without worrying about government control run amuck, thank you very much.
Gilmore has enough $$$ to charter a private jet. I have a buddy who has a jet charter company and when we go somewhere I'm never asked for ID:)
Posted: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1352087/posts
Then read his website: http://www.toad.com/gnu/
He's unable to travel because he refuses to present a government-approved ID
John Gimore: "In my spare time I practice Iyengar Yoga, read, listen to music....travel...., program, and socialize."
John Gilmore's homepage.
Disarming the United States. The Bush Administration should be forced by United Nations resolutions to surrender its "weapons of mass destruction" or face the consequences. "Any government that repeatedly threatens and attacks other soveriegn countries without provocation, that holds massive stocks of nuclear and conventional weapons, that tortures its own citizens and those of other countries, that refuses to follow its own constitution and laws as well as international treaties which it co-created and signed, that holds 500,000 political prisoners in its jails, that imprisons the largest number and percentage of its people in the world... Any such government needs to immediately disarm and submit to a regime change, or face the consequences from the international community." See also the Pictures from the Iraq war that the US tried to censor so that Americans could not see them.
For someone who likes to remain "isolated from government view", Gilmore charts his achievements and anything else he thinks you want to know about him and his issues on [self]privacy". You only have to follow the yellow brick road on his self promoting website. ;)
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