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Stephen C. Meyer Article: The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories
Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington ^ | January 26, 2005 | Stephen C. Meyer

Posted on 02/26/2005 4:45:01 PM PST by DannyTN

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To: Alamo-Girl; b_sharp
Thank you so much for your reply! However, I have no interest in such things as "energy crystals and copper bracelets".

So you say, but the post to which b_sharp was replying read like a completely nutty piece of new-age mysticism. Perhaps that wasn't your intention but it wasn't just b_s who noticed it.

I've not come across this considered-to-be-mysterious "will to live" thing before, and now it has appeared at least twice in one thread. Resources are limited, organisms which struggle for existence will tend to displace those that don't struggle. All modern living things are descended from a line of millions of successful reproducers in a world where there will never be enough resources for most organisms to manage that. Call it the evolutionary tautology if you will (survival of the fittest, where the fittest are those who survive). Why is that presented as some kind of metaphysical mystery?

181 posted on 02/28/2005 12:45:38 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Thatcherite

The "will to live" thing is just the "you haven't figured out abiogenesis yet" argument coming in by the back door.


182 posted on 02/28/2005 4:39:00 AM PST by js1138
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To: DannyTN

Creationism makes Christians look stupid.


183 posted on 02/28/2005 5:30:18 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: WildTurkey

Nothing will stop creationists from retaining stupid ideas, no matter what! No YEC has ever budged an inch from knowing facts.


184 posted on 02/28/2005 5:31:38 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: DannyTN

"But ID isn't looking to pick a fight over dates, but rather process."

Yeah, right. ID is nonsense that is a pipsqueak trying to pick a fight with Superman as science. ID makes Christians look stupid.


185 posted on 02/28/2005 5:33:15 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: psipsistar

"Lamark wasn't all wrong, and animals do, to some degree, 'design' themselves and direct their own development.

So I'd agree with the author that 'intelligent design' has played a role in evolution. I'm open to that possiblity that that 'intelligent design' might occur at the cellural level."

Aluminum hats for sale!



186 posted on 02/28/2005 5:35:34 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: DannyTN

Do you have any actual science for us or are you just going to continue to argue against science with nonsense?


187 posted on 02/28/2005 5:38:52 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Its just another article that makes Christians look stupid.


188 posted on 02/28/2005 5:39:56 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: WildTurkey

I wonder why they think God needs anyone lying for Him?
It makes Christians look pretty stupid.


189 posted on 02/28/2005 5:41:34 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: betty boop

"And there's nothing in Darwinism that can account for the emergence of life in the first place. "

Right, so why do you argue against science as if evolution had anything in it about origin of life?

Are you just trying to make Christians look stupid?


190 posted on 02/28/2005 5:43:13 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: betty boop

"FWIW."

Explain quantum mechanics to us and we might think you have a worthwhile opinion.

Did you know that one opinion might not be worth as much as one informed opinion?


191 posted on 02/28/2005 5:48:40 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: betty boop

Ah yes! Just more grist for the mill for making Christians look stupid.


192 posted on 02/28/2005 5:51:16 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: jwalsh07

And your rant has what to do with science?

Have you figured out why the human eye is designed backwards yet?


193 posted on 02/28/2005 5:53:03 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: WildTurkey

"What I want to know is why Christians think it is allright to bear false witness when they are acting as "soldiers of God"?"

They are trying to protect God from the smart people who know evolution is a fact. They are trying to shelter themselves from the fact that CREATION IS NOT IN THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION!

They even admit the above and then speculate it is NOT in the theory because of political reasons!!!!!! Instead of arguing against science they should be writing a manual called, "How to make Christians LOOK STUPID!"


194 posted on 02/28/2005 5:57:23 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: bvw

You have just murdered all the animals on the Ark. Good going.


195 posted on 02/28/2005 6:03:59 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: bvw
I see your astuteness level is as bright as a flaming toothpick at noon in the Sahara.

I can't read your mind. Do you accept Meyers' Old Earth Theory or do you regect Meyers' Old Earth Theory?

196 posted on 02/28/2005 6:31:02 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey; bvw
I can't read your mind. Do you accept Meyers' Old Earth Theory or do you regect Meyers' Old Earth Theory?

Come on, it is easy... bvw eagerly endorses any part of any hypothesis/theory that looks like an attack on evolution, while rejecting any part of any hypothesis/theory that looks as if it doesn't mesh with the most simple minded literal reading of the Bible. So much easier than all that "thinking" malarkey and it saves one from the tiresome necessity of reading the arguments in the hypothesis and deciding if they stand up or not. Indeed it saves one from the tiresome necessity of knowing anything whatsoever about science and the data when making sage pronouncements decrying Chuck Darwin's ideas.

197 posted on 02/28/2005 6:40:21 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Thatcherite; bvw
Come on, it is easy... bvw eagerly endorses any part of any hypothesis/theory that looks like an attack on evolution, while rejecting any part of any SAME hypothesis/theory that looks as if it doesn't mesh with the most simple minded literal reading of the Bible.
198 posted on 02/28/2005 6:42:43 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

Yep, my bad not to make that part of my point clear.


199 posted on 02/28/2005 6:44:59 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: DannyTN
" Evolution is not a scientific law; it's a mere hypothesis."

Evolution is an hypothesis, or theory, about natural history, but there is no way to properly classify it as "science" any more than an explanation the causes of the Civil War can be described as "science."

---though, on this site, I'm sure that there are many who believe they have the "War of Northern Aggression" down to a pretty exact "science!"

200 posted on 02/28/2005 6:49:42 AM PST by cookcounty (LooneyLibLine: "The ONLY reason for Operation Iraqi FREEDOM was WMD!!" ((repeat til brain is numb))
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