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As Autistic Children Grow, So Does Social Gap
NY Times ^ | February 26, 2005 | JANE GROSS

Posted on 02/25/2005 8:13:00 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 02/25/2005 8:13:01 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Incorrigible

ping


2 posted on 02/25/2005 8:13:53 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Travis McGee

Item possibly of interest.


3 posted on 02/25/2005 8:14:34 PM PST by dighton
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


4 posted on 02/25/2005 8:15:10 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

So a decade ago there were 22000 autistic children, and now 6 times more, 140000. The population has not grown sixfold over the decade, and diagnostics 10 years ago was not SO bad as to miss 80% of them. So, unless it is an epidemics, why such growth in their numbers?


5 posted on 02/25/2005 8:19:49 PM PST by GSlob
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There seems to be an epidemic.

This is a sad, sad story. I feel for them


6 posted on 02/25/2005 8:22:49 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: CraigG; justadad2four

Autism ping.


7 posted on 02/25/2005 8:23:32 PM PST by Born Conservative (I need a new tagline. Any suggestions?)
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To: neverdem

The two kids I know who are Autistic never even got close to 1st grade, let alone 6th grade on their own (unless thier parents, grandparents, school, etc. were ALL completely clueless) to even ask the question "Why am I like this. What's wrong with me?". If you get "that far" without Autism being discovered as a factor, then it isn't a factor. To even be able to ask that question indicates that its something else, not Autism.


8 posted on 02/25/2005 8:26:11 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: neverdem

My Mom was pregnant and at the same time had German measles in 69... and although the odds were she would have a handicapped baby being devout Catholics abortion was not an option. She is a saint

Johnny was born autistic and deaf.
We had 5 kids in a small house.
No regrets.... at this time Johnny is a little blessing.

If you think you have problems think of little guys like him and count your blessings.


9 posted on 02/25/2005 8:28:49 PM PST by Blackirish (Death to Tyrants)
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To: cupcakes

FYI ping


10 posted on 02/25/2005 8:32:55 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: GSlob

It's not an epidemic. Diagnostic skills are much improved today. My second cousin is Autistic. Unfortunately, his mother is of the opinion that at the age of 17 he will improve by the miracles of prayer, rather than occupational therapy and medication.


11 posted on 02/25/2005 8:36:03 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: neverdem

Surviving middle school is hard for many children but when you are autistic it can be a nightmare. The hormones kick in and scramble the progress you have made with the child. They didn't have a clue on how to behave in elementary school and even less as to how to handle their sexuality. The suicide rate is fairly high for high functioning autistic children as they grow into their teens. They are the perpetual outcast. All a parent can do is love them like a rock and keep trying to help them grow into a adult. A autistic child can be like a battle that never ends, you just never give up, do whatever it takes, and never surrender.


12 posted on 02/25/2005 8:37:29 PM PST by dog breath
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To: Hurricane Andrew
If you get "that far" without Autism being discovered as a factor, then it isn't a factor. To even be able to ask that question indicates that its something else, not Autism.

Autism is a spectrum, and children can be autistic at different points along that spectrum, so it is not always easy to diagnose.
13 posted on 02/25/2005 8:39:01 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: GSlob
So a decade ago there were 22000 autistic children, and now 6 times more, 140000. The population has not grown sixfold over the decade, and diagnostics 10 years ago was not SO bad as to miss 80% of them. So, unless it is an epidemics, why such growth in their numbers?

I entered autism, annual prevalence. This was one of the abstracts listed. Click "Related Articles". The epidemiology of autistic spectrum disorders: is the prevalence rising?

"The evidence suggests that the majority, if not all, of the reported rise in incidence and prevalence is due to changes in diagnostic criteria and increasing awareness and recognition of autistic spectrum disorders."

14 posted on 02/25/2005 8:40:22 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: dog breath

My son has been working in group homes with Autistic middle school boys....He's recently got a promotion, but hates to leave....Several are really making progress. There just are not enough people trained to help all in need.


15 posted on 02/25/2005 8:49:47 PM PST by hoosiermama (It's more than an election...It's a change of heart....an enlightenment....life is important)
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To: sarasota

Didn't incorrigible have an autism ping list?


16 posted on 02/25/2005 8:54:09 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: annyokie
It's not an epidemic. Diagnostic skills are much improved today. My second cousin is Autistic. Unfortunately, his mother is of the opinion that at the age of 17 he will improve by the miracles of prayer, rather than occupational therapy and medication.

She's not related to my sister-in-law is she? Their boy is 16, was in a legit therapy program for maybe a year when he was 3 or so. None since - "home schooled." He still wears a diaper and head phones to block out all sound so that he's manageable. She never took him to speech therapy (but they took the government money provided by SSDI). Now they're seeing a chiropractor-type weekly who claims to be able to help. My husband was just back visiting the whole family - said in 3 years nothing has changed that he can tell. The parents claim he's making improvements. If there are any they aren't particularly functional ones.

17 posted on 02/25/2005 9:00:19 PM PST by Spyder
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To: neverdem
this is so my 26 yro dtr.....as the years have gone by, instead of feeling more comfortable in her own skin, she grows more and more withdrawn....

my objective view of her is that she carries so much tension and worry on her face...

the little things that most people just don't worry about, she worries....

she has never had a friend, wouldn't know how to make one, or to keep one...

she goes to the mall and one particular young woman salesperson was meerly polite and kind to my dtr, and my dtr took it to mean that she wanted to be some long lost friend....but the salesperson was only doing her job....

I can say for a fact that even thought these people are socially withdrawn, they do long for friendship.....its just out of reach for them with their differant social outlook and behaviors...

its very sad......

18 posted on 02/25/2005 9:07:58 PM PST by cherry
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To: drjimmy
Autism is a spectrum, and children can be autistic at different points along that spectrum, so it is not always easy to diagnose.

In my experience (admittedly limited) a 6th grader asking his parents why he was the way he was after successuflly making it to that level academically is not indicative of Autism. Granted, I'm a Banker, not a Doctor, but the Autistic kids I know would not have made it (actually didn't make it) past preschool before being diagnosed. I know were're talking about public schools here, but even for them preschool and 6th grade are worlds apart.
19 posted on 02/25/2005 9:12:48 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: Spyder

He isn't that bad, but he has grow tall and heavier than his mother. (Her husband left her some years ago.) He knows he can whip up on mom. He has already broken her arm once when he threw her across the room.

I've been telling her for years to put him in home-care or he is going to kill her. She is holding out for a cure from Jesus.


20 posted on 02/25/2005 9:16:09 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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