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Republic vs. Democracy
Restoring America ^

Posted on 02/25/2005 2:38:35 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 02/25/2005 2:38:36 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Great article joe.


2 posted on 02/25/2005 2:47:52 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Interesting & provocative. One pines for the neoplatonist ideals atimes. Bump for further review...


3 posted on 02/25/2005 2:48:56 PM PST by March I up
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Bookmark!


4 posted on 02/25/2005 2:50:29 PM PST by jcb8199
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thanks for posting this.

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/United_States_Republican_Party

In the 1850s, following the disintegration of the Whig Party, the Southern wing of the Democratic Party became increasingly associated with the expansion of slavery, in opposition to the newly revamped United States Republican Party.

The New Democrat movement of the 1980s and 1990s, however, has moved the Democratic agenda in favor of a more centrist approach. This is a primary complaint of many members of the Green Party, leading some Greens, such as David Cobb, to declare, "The Democratic Party is where progressive politics go to die."
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/United_States_Democratic_Party

I urge everyone to read about the founding, the history, and the definition of both parties.


5 posted on 02/25/2005 2:53:07 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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The democratic process is an integral part of the republic. To be precise the US is a "democratically elected representative republic". Democracy has become a catch all term to refer to any form of government having a direct participation of the people in the election of their leaders.


7 posted on 02/25/2005 3:03:07 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Save for later reading.


8 posted on 02/25/2005 3:04:09 PM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Give em hell Joe...


9 posted on 02/25/2005 3:05:31 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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Democratic republic is redundant and an oxy-moron..


10 posted on 02/25/2005 3:07:14 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

great job joe!


11 posted on 02/25/2005 3:08:40 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Bookmarked


12 posted on 02/25/2005 3:11:57 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

read later


13 posted on 02/25/2005 3:12:19 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: hosepipe
Democratic republic is redundant and an oxy-moron.

Not so sure about that, not every republic is democratic, and not every democracy is a republic.

The 2 are not interchangable.

I remember one time a long winded fellow arguing with everyone that we were a "constitutional democratic republic".

14 posted on 02/25/2005 3:31:22 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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[ Not so sure about that, not every republic is democratic, and not every democracy is a republic. ]

A Banana republic is a democracy not a republic at all...
The American Republic is unique among governments. and among republics as well.. This republic has rights given by god and the government has nothing to do with them.. That is our government can not legally take them away (legally) or even to modify them.. Its the difference between Rights and Privileges.. All other governments grant privileges to their people.. We have some rights with additional privileges..

Canada and no URPean governments havn't any rights at all.. merely privileges.. What their governments give it can take away.. Not so here.. according to our Constitution.. Thats why the assault on God in America.. An attack on the guarantor of those rights and its attack on those rights.. Cause if God didn't grant those rights, who did..

Americans have not seen this yet, generally, but the LAWYERS have..

15 posted on 02/25/2005 3:54:16 PM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: traderrob6
To be precise the US is a "democratically elected representative republic".

Not really.

To be "democratically elected" means that the people "en masse" directly decide what the rules of each election will be, as well as who is to be elected, and when. Once you do that you wind up with chaos - mob rule.

No one elected under these circumstances can truly be "representative" of the people since the people (the mob) can reelect another "representative" at their whim.

That's certainly what the Founders had in mind when they made this a Republic - not a Democracy.

16 posted on 02/25/2005 4:01:34 PM PST by Noachian (We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
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Imagine a true democracy (in addition to the previous points):

We'd be voting numerous times a year.
We'd be inundated with campaign advertising - media, mail, phone, Internet. We'd become the lobbied.
How much would all that lobbying and voting cost?
How would the left do on guns, abortion, gay marriage, affirmative action, and their other issues if put to a general vote?
17 posted on 02/25/2005 4:02:45 PM PST by polymuser
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Not necessarily, the people do nominate and elect their representatives "en masse", but they do so under existing election laws and predetermined proceedure enacted by their elected representatives. Pure democracy would be a referendum on every single issue. If you take the "democratically elected" out of the equation, you would have a representative rebublic installed by only a certain portion of the population, say land owners for example. Our present sytem has aspects of both pure Republicanism and pure Democracy.


18 posted on 02/25/2005 4:23:17 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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Great article only question itraises is HOW to get it recieved and adhered to by a majority of our "mere politicians" whom I hear many graduate with degrees in
governemnt and reading the US Constitution is not even a
requirement.why bother with such a "living document" anyway.
They are taught ,however ,that the Court is final arbitor and that Constitution says whatever they say it says.


19 posted on 02/25/2005 4:24:45 PM PST by StonyBurk
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If you read early communications between Adams Jefferson, Madison there were grave concerns concerning the judiciary finally concluding idealy that they (judges) would use restraint. Guess you can't win em all.


20 posted on 02/25/2005 4:37:20 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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