ALTERED STATES' RIGHTS: Making the Case to Legalize Drugs in Washington State

The Stranger (Seattle) ^ | 2/24/2005 | Josh Feit`

[robertpaulsen]

"I know it sounds crazy ..."

Only to about 99.9% of the population. There are some who feel the way you do.

[Know your rights]

"I don't have time for your games supporting my baseless claims."

[Know your rights]

the Shreveport decision doesn't support your position.

I am aware of that.

Good. (But then why bring it up?)

But your justification implied that Congress may indeed regulate intrastate activity if that intrastate activity interfered with the free flow of interstate commerce.

How is a quotation from the decision you brought up "my justification"?

Are you saying now that Congress may not do this? That states are free to impede interstate commerce, and Congress is impotent?

I'll think on that. In the meantime, I'll reiterate that the Shreveport decision doesn't support your position.

[Know your rights]

Like you said ... where?

In post #133.

And so what? Every court decision post-FDR is to be ignored?

Every court decision post-FDR is to be treated with suspicion by real, Constitution-respecting conservatives.

[Know your rights]

I know it sounds crazy but I am for legalizing all drugs and not just pot.

It only sounds crazy until you hear the counterarguments.

[robertpaulsen]

"the Shreveport decision doesn't support your position."
"I am aware of that."
"Good. (But then why bring it up?)"

I should have said, "I am aware that is your claim".

"In the meantime, I'll reiterate that the Shreveport decision doesn't support your position."

It does in the sense that the USSC ruled that Congress may regulate intrastate commerce if it substantially affects their interstate regulatory efforts. In this case, it was to negate the advantage that one carrier had over the others, thereby impeding competition.

The bottom line? It brought intrastate commerce into Congressional regulatory play. That you cannot deny, and that's what makes the case significant.

[Know your rights]

the USSC ruled that Congress may regulate intrastate commerce if it substantially affects their interstate regulatory efforts.

No, it ruled that Congress may regulate intrastate commerce if it substantially hinders interstate commerce.

[robertpaulsen]

"No, it ruled that Congress may regulate intrastate commerce if it substantially hinders interstate commerce."

Fine. I'll take my victories as they're given to me.

So you do concede that a pre-FDR court has ruled that Congress may regulate intrastate traffic under the Commerce Clause?

[philman_36]

"You couch it in such polite expressions..."looked down on"... "
Correct. That is the definition of "stigmatize".
No, that is not the definition of stigmatize. I provided the definition of that word in reply 119...stigmatize - to describe or identify in opprobrious (1 : something that brings disgrace 2 a : public disgrace or ill fame that follows from conduct considered grossly wrong or vicious) terms
What you did wasn't a definition at all.
To couch something is to phrase or express in a specified manner ...which is what you did with your "looked down on" instead of calling the bigotry in question what it was.
It seems to me that you would call an apple an orange if it suited your purpose. At least I'm able to recognize an apple as an apple.
We don't do that anymore (which was my point) because people, people like philman_36 for example, would call it "bigotry and racial hatred".
Yes, we do still do that. There is lots of bigotry and racial hatred around today. It simply isn't "in your face" like it used to be. Everyone is polite about it, just like you with your couched expression.

And please, stop being so condescending. I know all too well what my screen name is and I don't need you to remind me. It seems beneath you, but then again I could be wrong.

[Know your rights]

you do concede that a pre-FDR court has ruled that Congress may regulate intrastate traffic under the Commerce Clause?

They ruled that Congress may do so to prevent hindrance to interstate traffic, so a qualified yes.