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ALTERED STATES' RIGHTS: Making the Case to Legalize Drugs in Washington State
The Stranger (Seattle) ^ | 2/24/2005 | Josh Feit`

Posted on 02/25/2005 10:22:10 AM PST by nyg4168

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Something's got to be done about this losing war on drugs. Maybe this is worth a shot.
1 posted on 02/25/2005 10:22:14 AM PST by nyg4168
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Something's got to be done about this losing war on drugs.

This is more kookish propaganda from the pro-drug crowd. Don't let anyone fool you, we are winning the war on drugs, one dealer/user/producer/trafficker at a time.

2 posted on 02/25/2005 10:25:29 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: nyg4168

Even if the courts ruled that the Federal prohibition is valid, ending state laws against drug use would save the states money. The cost of enforcement would be shifted in toto to the federal government, and the state law enforcement agencies would not have to do a thing to help them.


3 posted on 02/25/2005 10:27:06 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: nyg4168

I think I agree. This is a perfect area in which federalism can pay dividends. As a conservative with zeal of the newly converted, I no longer care too much about the libertarian's desire to create an amoral anything goes society, but we've got to start thinking outside the box. Legalized drugs will take the profit motive away from the drug dealers.


4 posted on 02/25/2005 10:27:09 AM PST by Jibaholic
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To: nyg4168
I support their efforts toward the reestablishment of states rights. I also agree that the war on drugs creates more egregious problems than it solves. A beta test in a state like Washington might be good.
5 posted on 02/25/2005 10:27:54 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

LOL!!

You forgot your sarcasm tags!


6 posted on 02/25/2005 10:29:34 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Don't let anyone fool you, we are winning the war on drugs, one dealer/user/producer/trafficker at a time.

Maybe you don't think drugs should be legalized, but you can't possibly believe the "war on drugs" is being won. What evidence do you have to support that?

7 posted on 02/25/2005 10:29:58 AM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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The cost of enforcement would be shifted in toto to the federal government,

Any cost of enforcement shifted to the feds ends up being higher federal taxes and MORE power to the federal government for all of us. That said, I'm all for state actions that result in re-establishing state's rights over federal rights. This one is odd, but I like to hear other states besides us southerners bringing it up.

8 posted on 02/25/2005 10:30:09 AM PST by Wneighbor
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To: nyg4168

I agree. I think everything shoul go to states rights. Abortion, homosexual marriage, drug laws, etc....should all be dealt with by each individual state as they see fit. The federal government should stay out of it!


9 posted on 02/25/2005 10:30:51 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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but we've got to start thinking outside the box. Legalized drugs will take the profit motive away from the drug dealers.

Precisely, just because we remove the laws on this doesn't mean we've condoned an amoral society. Thinking outside the box, as you said, can allow us to find other ways to attack these problems. Individual responsibility is going to have to be taught and learned in America again.

10 posted on 02/25/2005 10:32:42 AM PST by Wneighbor
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No one will ever legalize drugs in America because there would be no excuse to ever RAISE TAXES again!~}


11 posted on 02/25/2005 10:34:23 AM PST by funkywbr
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The Stranger, OY! the meshugana liberal fish-wrap of Seattle.

And I have NO DOUBT Gregoire would love a new tax source.


12 posted on 02/25/2005 10:37:57 AM PST by moehoward
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They should do the same here in California. The street wars here in L.A. are heating up, and they will spill over and out of "their" 'hoods soon if we don't do something about it. We can either nuke South L.A. or take away the reasons that they battle. When they label it a "turf war", it ain't 'cause they're fighting over tenements.

13 posted on 02/25/2005 10:39:48 AM PST by AnnaZ (You can help stop a murder ::: http://terrisfight.org/)
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we are winning the war on drugs, one dealer/user/producer/trafficker at a time.

BAHAHAHAHAAH!!

Your kidding right?

14 posted on 02/25/2005 10:40:48 AM PST by Smogger
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To: ClintonBeGone
Don't let anyone fool you, we are winning the war on drugs, one dealer/user/producer/trafficker at a time

ROFL!!!
Twenty years ago we were told that we could get cocaine off our streets by sending the DEA to Columbia to get Pablo Escobar. Well...Pablo Escobar is dead, The DEA is still in Columbia and cocaine is cheaper and easier to get today than it was twenty years ago!
...
15 posted on 02/25/2005 10:41:35 AM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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The states have just about taxed cigarettes out of existence their treasury's are sinking without all that Cigarette tax money , they are looking for new sources of money. Legalise drugs and they have it, The states arent worried about criminals making money they just want a new thing to tax .Legalise drugs and the momey you save on locking up drug dealers will be spent on social services to wean folks off the hard stuff. Now having said that I am a proponent of prescription use of heroin for terminal patients. Its cheaper and does a better job than the synthesized stuff.


16 posted on 02/25/2005 10:41:57 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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No one will ever legalize drugs in America because there would be no excuse to ever RAISE TAXES again!~}

I disagree.........Just legalizing marijuana alone, and treating it like alcohol and tobacco (restrictions on age and taxing it) would reap financial windfalls at all levels of government.

First would be the criminal justice system would not be overburdened with petty stuff, thus saving taxpayers dollars better used for prosecuting more important stuff;

Second would be freeing up law enforcement to actually deal with the real criminals that neeed to be dealt with by the rest of the criminal just system, thus saving tax payer dollars;

And finally, by eliminating the black market and collecting taxes on it like alcohol and tobacco, any time the state needs a quiet way to balance a budget they can just up the excise tax on it, just like they now do to alcohol and tobacco.

Sounds like a winning proposition all the way around. It seems to me

17 posted on 02/25/2005 10:43:38 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Wneighbor

Seatle is in Washington state, King County is where the Dems pulled off their theft of the Governors office. Not a Southern State.


18 posted on 02/25/2005 10:43:46 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: nyg4168
Some people will only be happy when all Americans wander the streets stoned and mumbling obscenities.
19 posted on 02/25/2005 10:44:13 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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" ... we are winning the war on drugs ..."

Really? Introductory Economics says not so. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1351049/posts

20 posted on 02/25/2005 10:45:51 AM PST by atomic_dog
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