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The Gannon/Guckert "scandal": a golden opportunity
Biblical Christianity Blog ^ | 2/24/05 | Daniel J. Phillips

Posted on 02/24/2005 8:53:42 AM PST by BibChr

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To: Howlin

LOL! Howlin, I figure some NY socialite is needin' a stud. A real baddy stud. And willin' to pay for details in advance. Remember rule number 1 in Liberalism: The personal is political! (and vice versa). The socialite will write a tell-all to titillate those who felt scorned by Jeff Gannon in their past lives. Kitty Kelly will write the forward. And Henchy will aver that any book store not selling this book be burned!


21 posted on 02/24/2005 3:41:01 PM PST by Alia
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping Howlin, THIS is a great list.. a keeper!


22 posted on 02/24/2005 6:24:25 PM PST by JesseJane ( "I inadvertently took a few documents from the Archives," Berger said.)
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; alwaysconservative; lowbridge; Dataman; Alia; JesseJane; jla; Bob J; Mo1; ...

I don't know whether the trolls from DU saw this, or it was posted, or what, but the traffic at my blog went nuts, and I've gotten a bunch of emails.

Some are just nasty and acid, some are more contentful and conversational -- but they all seem to read from a script. They basically mock my Christian faith, and specifically call me a hypocrite for defending Jeff Gannon, because he advertised himself on the internet and did homosexual prostitution.

This is striking, because unless I missed something in my own essay, I don't defend Gannon. I don't comment on him either way. I do attack the hypocrisy of the left, and the sanctimoniousness of the WH presstitutes -- but that isn't their focus.

Instead, something I didn't say is their focus.

I guess the list strikes a nerve. That's good, at least.

Dan


23 posted on 02/25/2005 5:08:45 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr; Howlin; Miss Marple; alwaysconservative; lowbridge; Dataman; Alia; JesseJane; jla; Bob J; ..
Dear Dan, this all has more to do with the "old leftwing" media checking out it's ping-status (and rates of speed) regarding the spread of "rumors" and "activism" world wide. Simple examination of facts culled over the past 6 months reveals that the left wishes to reassert itself as the new "partisian" (but not obvious) media.

Here's my cursory findings:

The issue was not Eason Jordan; but rather what else was going on at the WEF forum. The tapes are simply irrelevant, therefore. And of course, not available to the "publik".

The left has devised some very high tech new media(um) tools to continue their anti-American "newscasts". This explains to me clearly, Eason Jordan's positions on the "news is partial" therefore, I will leave CNN in order to show up somewhere else" position. Additionally take the matter of Joe Strupp.

He appears to be reporting the news in Cronkite fashion. ("Hardnews, only the news!") Search out older statements of his and you see that he believes the problem to current (for the left) has been that the news is reported from Fringe to Center -- and this is why the left is "vulnerable". He appears to posit to have news reported from "Center to Fringe". Fascinating, no?

However, search out his works, and you will find them nearly 100% at left-wing sites, including left-wing "journos" sites. This includes Pro-Palestinian websites, etc.

Search out the blogs posting on the Gannon matter, and these nearly all link to Joe Strupp's new format, NOT "media matters" (David Brock).

Now factor in such media tools such as technorati and del-ici-ous. I did the looking -- using these tools, one can then determine the speed of ping (and broadcast of "rumors") as well as "rumor hold" worldwide via blog/url counts. One can thereby also, using these tools (including Google) to access same (speed/amounts) of response/retort to the new "mill", and devise, remap accordingly.

And then there is the Democrat "WE DEMAND A FORMAL INVESTIGATION" into "GannonGuckertGate". Add to it D-Hinchey's latest and happily raving theories. One could posit the Democratic party has gone completely over the edge, OR, there's something far bigger a foot.

I posit there is something far bigger afoot. The left's new "media". There are newer technologies, now installed and access worldwide, whereby the left can communicate via PC (visuals, audio) their take on events in the world. They have their own RSSfeed links, etc. Who will "control" the media in the newly freed middle-east? Hmmm?

By the rapid rapid at which you describe the email coming to you, you may understand that the Gannon Matter has more to do with stocks and investments at the "large fish" level, and with "social activism" at the lower level.

I read what you wrote. I thought it was quite good. It certainly wasn't angry or viscious.

IMH-assessment, the Gannon matter is merely an opportunity for the left to "test" its new media. I'm watching stocks. And watching for even bigger "moonbat" theories and tin-foil hat conspiracies to arise.

Might these adversely affect what positive gains are going on in the mid-east? Yes. The potential is there.

You see, I now believe the left when they assert they are not maligning Jeff, personally. lol. Yep, I do believe it's about -- something bigger. The left is insanely chanting about "Gannon being a Bush/Rove/McClelland/Martian/UFO" plant, so to speak. But only so that none pay attention to what they are planting even larger, and worldwide. That's my two cents.

You are being attacked for something you did not say or write: Oh, no. That line of thinking is coming from the left "center to fringe". Ergo, you are being attacked on the basis of non-foundation, but a network. Keep on the good work, Dan! Obviously, you are being responded to under a very biased-driven "rules of engagement" under the rubric of "new media".

24 posted on 02/25/2005 5:35:26 AM PST by Alia
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To: BibChr
i> but they all seem to read from a script. They basically mock my Christian faith,

Very interesting. But that same stuff happens right here. Our favorite FR lefites do exactly the same thing: respond with fangs to something never said and take a stab at Christianity.

25 posted on 02/25/2005 5:41:21 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Alia

Interesting! WND has had certain polls go off to the left for no (apparent) reason. I wonder if it's related?


26 posted on 02/25/2005 5:46:28 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Dataman

Dataman, it wouldn't be surprising at all to learn that the "conspiracy eventists" are indeed using "coincidental happenstance" to give the allusion of an "opinion". Wouldn't surprise me at all!


27 posted on 02/25/2005 5:50:23 AM PST by Alia
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To: BibChr
This is striking, because unless I missed something in my own essay, I don't defend Gannon. I don't comment on him either way. I do attack the hypocrisy of the left, and the sanctimoniousness of the WH presstitutes -- but that isn't their focus.

This has been the pattern since day one. Unfortunately some freepers fall into that lazy thinking, too.

28 posted on 02/25/2005 6:23:34 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Alia
it wouldn't be surprising at all to learn that the "conspiracy eventists" are indeed using "coincidental happenstance" to give the allusion of an "opinion".

Out of left field, maybe, but this reminds me of reports that dems put out the word in battleground states of where exit polling was taking place and told their people to go to those sites and participate in the poll, thereby creating those bizarre and false numbers.

Also the dems have been talking points kings and queens for quite a few years. The latest example is that Maryland/Freeper brouhaha where some dem contacted constituents urging them to call "right-wing" radio and claim they voted for the Republican governor, BUT...and then launch into the script. For years many of us watched CSPAN, then stopped when it became clear the dems had formed what appeared to be an organzied phone bank to over-whelm the phone lines. So this would be the next level of propaganda and manipulation, not the start of.

29 posted on 02/25/2005 6:39:55 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: grellis

D'oh! I should have pinged you to this, too.


30 posted on 02/25/2005 6:45:52 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
Hmmmm .. since according to the Liberals .. gay reporters aren't allowed in or near the White House and the President

Does that also include members of Congress??

I mean since these Dem Senators are calling for an investigation

I think they need to have an FBI background check on them also

And print the Report in the papers so that we all know

We must take all security precautions

31 posted on 02/25/2005 6:51:07 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: BibChr

I plead ignorant--I have seen the name Gannon quite a bit lately but I don't know the particulars of the story. From what you have posted, however, your fifth point is the one which brings a big ol' smile to my face. That's something I would love to see.


32 posted on 02/25/2005 7:14:27 AM PST by grellis (Neil Diamond ROCKS!!!)
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To: cyncooper
So this would be the next level of propaganda and manipulation, not the start of.

Exactly. And I do fully concur on it being "not the start of". Sometimes, I find it useful to pull back, and assess all the bits and pieces of known and available data. Where this fits into that, etc.

And of late, the most curious piece, is the Gannon/Guckert matter. And how the Dems are using this piffle story to "event" and showcase something entirely otherwise. Yes, it is amazing to watch the moonbat theories grow themselves. Worldwide, too. I know Democrats. Their hunger is power and money. Social "activism" is how they get theirs. None of the ideology fits square with their charges against Mr. Gannon.

Dems may be "out there" but stupid is nothing I've ever said to describe them. Sneaky, slyboots, underhanded, yes -- I've said those things.

33 posted on 02/25/2005 8:08:37 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia
This one is also pretty stupid. With the exception of the desperate Blumenthal/Brock slime machine and now completely discredited lefty blogoshpere, it is drawing a collective yawn.
34 posted on 02/25/2005 9:07:41 AM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J; JesseJane; cyncooper
Bob, you are right. But remember the theme of the new "Democratic Party"? It's about "values". And the ones who will add on and fuel these types of "rumor-as-news" games are to the left, their "true believers". See? This is how they are trying to compete with a "morals" campaign. It will fail, ultimately, but not before they've put their network together and in new "democratic" locations vis a vis middle-east. And as we were able to see via Election 2000, the left decided to bring "foreign nationals" to weigh in on American domestic affairs. The left has expanded their abilities to do this. And they don't even have to worry about the MSM, anymore, as much. And this, right here, is why all the stink about RIGHT WING BLOGGERS. The left can't stand open competition. www.newsmob.com

And for anyone else reading this post: most all the Lunaville.org sites are "temp disabled". Some appear to be self-"temp disabled. Fascinating.

35 posted on 02/25/2005 10:40:45 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia
The left wing bloggers lost a lot of credibility with this, even on the left, and if the Blumenthal/Brock/DNC attack machine want to pursue it, they so so at their own risk.

The Rather/Gannon comparison continue...
36 posted on 02/25/2005 12:45:06 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J; Alia

It's not so little to Them, though.

At my blog, I had a relatively new counter. It was just creeping up towards 200 hits.

But when I posted this here and on my blog, in two days it's gone up over 3200 ! And I got quite a flow of mostly-acid, nasty email (with some exceptions -- but NOTHING positive from the blog).

So as I said above, something definitely touched a nerve. And this story means a lot to them -- but only if taken the "right" way.

Dan


37 posted on 02/25/2005 3:00:19 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: jla

How much for a weekend with Helen?


38 posted on 02/25/2005 3:03:35 PM PST by woofie
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To: BibChr

Were their emails "script like"? Saying the same things?


39 posted on 02/25/2005 4:22:16 PM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

Not usually verbatim, but yes, generally saying the same thing. It is as if someone posted my essay somewhere and said, "Write this 'Christian' and tell him what a hypocrite he is for defending a guy who advertised his services as a prostitute." Because, in different ways, that's basically what they all say.

I engaged one in dialogue and asked for one sentence that illustrated my defending Gannon/Guckert, or even commenting on him. He answered -- but not with that.

Dan


40 posted on 02/26/2005 5:38:13 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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