Posted on 02/24/2005 12:00:03 AM PST by amdgmary
Yep, this is entirely tired to the concept of what makes human life valuable. Is it the labor that a person can do? Their 'quality of life'? And who would decide that anyway if not the person?
It wont be long now till those in a similar state to Terry will be routinely put to sleep permanently at hospitals and nursing care homes.
Not long after that, we will have people declared to have lives not worth livng due to psychological problems, then later those who are irredeemably conditioned to have 'hate thought'.
This is so easy to predict, you just follow the logic and there you are.
If you think any governor is going to call out the national guard for something like this you are as wacky as Paul Hill, Eric Rudolph and the rest.
End of story.
And the fact that the "justifiable force" people have showed up on this thread validate what I said.
BTW, I will have to assume you never found any law that gives the governor the power to send the National Guard or State Troopers to the hospital.
So you think killing the judge would be justifiable homocide?
It would be nice if someone would tell Floridians what was going on. THE QUOTE BY DANIEL WEBSTER made me sick. "The Court has come up with much better solutions than we have so far." Daniel Webster who we thought was for justice. By the way DANIEL WEBSTER'S PHONE LINE IS SWAMPED. I called to complain about his HORRID QUOTE. Did the death lobby wear him down???
So you think killing the judge would be justifiable homocide?
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How in hell did you come up with that? I never said that. It never crossed my mind. The governor has the power and the duty to station whomever it is he has the power to call out to prevent a felonious murder to be committed. That 'judge', contrary to law, has never visited the person he condemned to death. It never even crossed my mind that he would be the one to enter her room to pull the tube.
Thanks for posting that, fv -- and for calling him, wow. Good news if true. Is there any update on the DCF investigation, or sense of if it is, well, real? Prayers continue for you all and for Terri.
bump and mark -- thanks for your posts with that contact info.
As I see it, you are the one who injected that into this thread. With all due respect, pls take that debate to another thread.
>>And the fact that the "justifiable force" people have showed up on this thread validate what I said.
That doesn't validate anything -- it just means some people think like you.
Your example is out of scope.
the person is justified in the use of deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. (against Terri Schiavo)
You define cite Florida law defining "forcible felony" as:
murder; manslaughter; ... and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual. (against Terri Schiavo)
Then you state that:
the phony judge is threatening Terri with several of the above (which is a violation of the law
So first you claim that justifiable force is legal under certain circumstances (obviously in relation to the Terri Schiavo matter since you are on this thread), then you provide a legal definition of 'justifiable force' and tell us that the judge is "threatening Terri" with acts of violence (which is one of the instances that allow you to use justifiable force against him).
If you did not mean to state that force was justified against the judge, why did you bring him up and why did you bring up the subject?
And WHO are you advocating justifiable force against?
Still couldn't come up with any laws that would allow Gov. Bush to send out the Army National Guard to the hospital?
Every time you ignore this question, you simply prove my point.
I tried google but didn't come up with anything on a one week stay issued today.
Seems that any extension would have to be contingent upon DCF completion of investigation.
Yes Judge Greer is threatening Terri, but he would use his minions to carry out the deed. Force does not necessarily mean KILL. Force means 'power or energy; strength......any body of individuals organized for some specific work or action: police force....' etc. etc. My only reason for bringing it up is to show that this governor is the chief executive of that state and his duty is to see that the laws of the state UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS are carried out. IMO he has failed, and is just as guilty as Greer and all the others who want to see Terri dead. He has the power to use force to prevent a murder of a defenseless person, and he is dancing around with semantics. If that were a beautiful, healthy infant lying there would we even be having this conversation? Or would you think it fitting for the chief executive officer of the state to do a Pilate and say he was "just following 'the law'"? I KNOW where their so-called LAW is coming from, and we been there done that 2000 years ago.
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Please join this forum and help save Terri! Thanks, FV
So who are the people you advocate using justifiable force against?
You have freepmail.
I am advocating that the governor perform his duty to protect Terri. end of story.
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