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Dutch Deports Three Radical Imams
NISNews ^ | February 23 2005

Posted on 02/23/2005 2:32:44 PM PST by knighthawk

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To: Modernman

"By driving the desperate Bosnian government into the hands of Iran and the Saudis during the wars in the 1990's, Milosevic helped create pockets of radical Islam in Bosnia that didn't exist before the war."

I don't buy this. The West did more to help Bosnia than Iran or any other Islamic country in the 90s. Yet still many of them gravitated to radicalism. I don't buy this proposition that racist, radical Islam comes from the bad behavior of others any more than I would buy that the Nazis were just a product of Jewish arrogance in 1920s Germany. These people are what they are because of a corrupt and evil ideology, not as a reaction to some outside force. Radical Islam is a rot that starts from the inside out, not the outside in.


21 posted on 02/23/2005 3:12:15 PM PST by MikeA
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To: Destro
The three imams are from Kenya, Bosnia and another country that Verdonk did not disclose.
22 posted on 02/23/2005 3:13:45 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: knighthawk

Good, good, good.


23 posted on 02/23/2005 3:42:06 PM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: knighthawk

Should of thrown them in the ocean and made them swim away.


24 posted on 02/23/2005 3:42:36 PM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods.)
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To: knighthawk

"The Three Terrorists"


26 posted on 02/23/2005 7:41:31 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty; F14 Pilot; nuconvert
"The Three Terrorists"

They have multiplied; "the four Terrorists"

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/18409201/Vierde_imam_land_uit.html

55 year old Imam Ahmad Salam will as well be kicked out.
27 posted on 02/23/2005 10:57:58 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: knighthawk; Eric in the Ozarks

Good for the Netherlands. Keep up the good work! I salute their new spine, even though I'm really p*ssed at Philips for dumping me after 15 faithful years. As long as they dump the Imams too, I guess I can live with that.


28 posted on 02/24/2005 5:11:05 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: MikeA
The West did more to help Bosnia than Iran or any other Islamic country in the 90s.

For the first several years of the Yugoslavian conflict, the West did nothing other than impose a weapons embargo. This embargo didn't hurt Milosevic's government, but it left the Bosnian government in a desperate situation. The only countries in the world that were willing to help them out were radical Muslim states like Iran or the Saudis. That gave radical Islam a foothold in a place where it didn't really exist before.

I don't buy this proposition that racist, radical Islam comes from the bad behavior of others any more than I would buy that the Nazis were just a product of Jewish arrogance in 1920s Germany.

Radical, racist Islam did not really exist in Bosnia before Iran and the Saudis were able to get a foothold in the country in the 90's. The West didn't create radical Islam in Bosnia, it just allowed it to get a foothold.

Radical Islam is a rot that starts from the inside out, not the outside in.

In many places, such as Bosnia, Albania and even the US, native Muslim populations did not begin turning to radical Islam until vast amounts of foreign (mainly Saudi) money was pumped into the country, taking over previously moderate Muslim mosques and organizations.

The old joke in Yuogoslavia was: "How do you tell a Bosnian Muslim apart from other Yugoslavs?"

"He's the one eating pork, drinking alcohol and not praying 5 times a day to Mecca."

In Bosnia, you can now see young women on the street wearing the chador. Up until the 90's, that wasn't something you would see on anyone other than really old women in small towns. Saudi organizations and mosques are paying poor women to wear chadors in an attempt to change Bosnian Muslim culture.

What's been going on around the Muslim world for the last several decades is that the Saudis are using their oil wealth to influence and radicalize previously moderate, and in many cases, secular Muslim populations.

If we really wanted to win a major battle in the WOT, we would invade Saudi Arabia and confiscate all of the regime's foreign assets. That would go a long way towards drying up the funding for radical Islam around the world.

29 posted on 02/24/2005 6:49:48 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: MikeA
how much time, money and effort did we waste in the 90s freeing up Bosnia

The Serbs killed 200,000 Bosnians and raped and drove into exile many hundreds of thousands more. Few of them were religious.

The presence of one outspoken a-hole from the territory does not convince me that we did a bad thing in stopping hundreds of thousands of innocents from losing their lives. Bosnians are still largely secular--and more cynical than ever thanks to the hell they experienced.
30 posted on 02/24/2005 6:56:50 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Modernman

If we really wanted to win a major battle in the WOT, we would invade Saudi Arabia and confiscate all of the regime's foreign assets. That would go a long way towards drying up the funding for radical Islam around the world.


And you don't think the US invading and occupying the lands of Islam's holiest shrines, a country in which Muslims are offended at even the benign presence of Westerners, wouldn't set off an explosion of Islamic radicalism and terrorist assaults throughout the world? Invading Saudi Arabia would not stop Islamic terrorism. It would cause a tsunami of terrorism at the offense it would cause by America attacking and occupying Islam's holiest sites. Talk about gasoline on a fire.


31 posted on 02/24/2005 3:52:48 PM PST by MikeA
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To: thinden

Ping


32 posted on 02/25/2005 6:15:53 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: F14 Pilot

http://www.motivaction.nl/index.html

But it's not listed there yet. Also all is in Dutch, the English part is only about the company.


33 posted on 02/25/2005 6:20:11 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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