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Schiavo case nears decision - maybe
St. Petersburg Times ^ | February 23, 2005 | WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, CHRIS TISCH and LAUREN BAYNE ANDERSON

Posted on 02/23/2005 6:33:21 AM PST by amdgmary

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To: grassboots.org

Point taken.

But, if my earthen vessel (body) should ever become truly vegetative, I couldn't care less. Feel free to refer to it that way. By definition, there won't be any life remaining in it for anyone to hate, because my soul will have already left the scene. Life-haters, "glob" away! ;O)


41 posted on 02/23/2005 9:26:48 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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I don't agree for a moment that our soul leaves to be with Jesus until that moment our body truly dies - not goes into a coma or other less-than-communicative state. The Life is in the blood - according to the Scriptures. I don't believe that is a statement about the soul but rather about the body. As long as the blood flows, we are alive. The only other scripture on the subject is that "He breathed his last". When we can't breathe (even with a respirator) and our blood won't circulate - then we are dead, not a moment sooner.
42 posted on 02/23/2005 9:35:37 AM PST by grassboots.org (I Breathe - I'm Alive!)
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To: grassboots.org
Interesting.

Do note that when I said "truly vegetative" I meant without a soul.

I take it you believe it is improper for a Christian to have a "living will" which precludes the use of a respirator. Of course, none of our artificial means can prevent the sovereign God from taking a soul to heaven. Whether that means (1) we're obligated to keep the body living by any and all means at our disposal and/or (2) God will stop the heart from beating at the moment when He takes the soul, would seem to be open to debate. I certainly don't claim to have the answers.

43 posted on 02/23/2005 10:06:54 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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I am not necessarily opposed to a living will - though I think, without a special document, it is much more likely that a person will be killed against their better judement than "forced to live" against their better judgement. I say better judgement because people may often say "I wouldn't want to live that way" not knowing how little suffering being on a respirator takes place and how often people survive after being put on a respirator. There is vast ignorance in the public about end-of-death situations.

There is also a "will to live" document available. The best approach for most people who don't want to be starved to death is to appoint someone you trust as your legal guardian (of course, this as in the Schiavo case could be fraught with difficulties).





44 posted on 02/23/2005 10:15:32 AM PST by grassboots.org (I Breathe - I'm Alive!)
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To: amdgmary

bah-bull-thumpers scare me.


45 posted on 02/23/2005 10:43:24 AM PST by MonroeDNA (US OUT of the UN!)
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Bible-haters ought to scare themselves.


46 posted on 02/23/2005 10:49:01 AM PST by grassboots.org (I Breathe - I'm Alive!)
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