Posted on 02/23/2005 5:15:25 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
None of us have expected a real response from you, and so far none of us have been let down.
Yes, but I think that's a lot less government than offering bribes for illegals to regularize. As I pointed out, they have little incentive to do so now so it would take a large increase in free services to get them to legalize. Otherwise they use the free clinic which I support and the emergency room which we all pay for through health insurance premiums. They also have the support of their own community.
If you really are a conservative wouldn't you support defense of the country before proposing large increases in federally sponsored human services?
You're not a big fan of The Holy Bible either, are you?
If your proclaimed mission is to stop terrorists carrying WMD from getting into this country, then (a) a border patrol is required on ALL frontiers, including the coastline, and (b) anyone getting in illegally is a mission failure.
[[This could be the issue that catapults the Democrats back in office in 2008.]]
[When you make a statement like this you call into question your intelligence. This statement is unsupportable by reality.]
Once-Ler,
Please do not insult my intelligence and I will not insult yours. Deal? I have heard many people in Washington say that Hillary has seized upon this very issue (illegal immigration) since the Republicans refuse to. She is running to the right with this issue and is starting to get noticed (again since the Republicans refuse to). Hillary will in all likelyhood be the Democratic nominee in 2008. I will say it again, illegal immigration is the issue that could put Hillary in the whitehouse in 2008.
I find it fascinating that the only people vocally praying for another 9/11 scale terrorist attack on the United States are (a) Islamsists of the bin Laden stripe, and (b) those who make an issue of illegal immigration. Funny thing is, sometimes the latter group is far louder than the former.
Followed by:
I will say it again, illegal immigration is the issue that could put Hillary in the whitehouse in 2008.
If you're one of the FReepers who's said that he would vote for Hillary in 2008 because of this issue, you have no intelligence to insult.
I respectfully answered your last question ... twice. And further if you re-read my posts you'll find an implicit answer to this question. I am still awaiting a response to my question.
The answer is no. I would expect you to pay whatever the market demanded for a legal laborer. If you found this to be too expensive I would suggest to you that you consider investing in some high-end dish-washing equipment that would reduce the labor cost of this task to where it was insignificant. I don't think there is anything in the constitution that guarantees you an unlimited supply of labor at the price you think is fair or appropriate. Lets close the border and let the market decide the fair price.
Now that I have answered three of your questions, please answer mine.
No I am a taxpayer. I am all for deconstructing the welfare state but I don't seriously expect it to happen anytime soon. It will be much harder to get accomplished if we keep importing poor people who, at best, vote 6 out of 10 for Democrats. We will have a much better chance at deconstructing welfare if we can improve the lives of the poorest Americans and convince them to vote Republican. The way to accomplish that is to drive up their wages and opportunities by cutting off the unlimited supply of cheap labor illegals.
The quickest path to socialism is to destroy the livelihoods of the poor at the bottom end of the middle class. That is the path that mass immigration is leading us down. Say good bye to the NASCAR voters and the gun-rights blue collar labor Republicans. They will vote their economic values in front of their social values.
[If you're one of the FReepers who's said that he would vote for Hillary in 2008 because of this issue, you have no intelligence to insult.]
Poobah,
I would NOT vote for Hitlery Clinton under any circumstances and I never said that I would. Please refrain from personal attacks on fellow Freepers. You were not sure if I would vote for Hillary or not, you just automatically assumed it and insulted my intelligence. I am on your side, so please dont't do that.
"Freedom" as defined by the Once-lers of the world means the "freedom" and "liberty" of illegals to storm into our country, fly planes into buildings, overrun our town, invade our home, and co-opt home bedroom. Why??
Because "God gives man the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness." (see post #375)
OK, tell me where I'm so ignorant since you seem to be the expert. Just because I bring up scenarios like what's occurring in Dallas on almost a daily basis does not mean I'm painting anyone with a broad brush....it's called the truth and I doubt someone like you is prepared to deal with it. Of course we have a larger share of crimes are committed by native born but why should countless innocent people and families have to suffer rape, robbery and even murder at the hands of people who would not be here if the fedgov had stricter enforcement policies? We have enough homegrown cretins so why import more?
Your opinion is metrosexual.
If you lie down with dogs - don't be surprised if people question whether or not you have fleas.
People who resort to name calling (as usual) are not worth responding to.
You all have a nice day now. ;)
"Do multisyllabic words bother you as well?"
Not at all! Those that encourage illegal activity by trying to imply that it is inevitable and unstopable and that there is a demand for it, just have to make some very convoluted distortions of the facts. That is exactly what most liberals do to make their ridiculous opinions acceptable to the gullible.
"Not as simple as "Juden raus," or "White Pride," or "There is no god but Allah." You don't need 6 pages to explain Dubya's illegal immigrant policy, but for some people 6 pages of truth will never counter the lies of their mind. 6 pages was not enough for you."
You're right I don't need 6 pages to explain Dubya's illegal immigrant policy. 6 pages that only an idiot would accept as truth. 6 pages of unsupported assertions was not enough for me, it was too much. As for your "white pride"
remark, you can take that up with La Raza.
"You're not a big fan of The Holy Bible either, are you?"
I believe the Holy Bible, why do you ask? I suppose you give this author the same status as the good book?
Impressive...
Try the next fortune cookie, pal.
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