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CU's out-of-state applicants drop 19%
the rocky mountain news ^ | february 22, 2005 | John C. Ensslin

Posted on 02/22/2005 12:29:50 PM PST by ken21

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To: ken21

No shock on this one.


81 posted on 02/22/2005 8:05:31 PM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I know Liquor Mart. I will only say that the CU Boulder colleges with the most money spent the most money there. You won't find much in the Liquor Mart budget, for instance, in the History or the English Depts., although they probably purchased a few bottles of wine for special occasions. No, find the colleges with the most money, and there you will find the greatest budget allocations at Liquor Mart.

Although I think this is another hit at CU Boulder, it's damn well time. The university is located on some of the most beautiful landscape the U.S. has. The poster who named it an "ivory tower" university is right; because of its ivory tower status, it is both a coveted place in which to work and a place that is subject to a lot of political corruption and abuse.

Ward Churchill has a very good reputation as a teacher, by the way. The drop in out-of-state tuition is not attributable to that. The drop has been happening for some time.


82 posted on 02/22/2005 8:46:02 PM PST by huck von finn
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To: huck von finn

I have no problem with alcohol served at functions. What I do have a problem with is the student "partying" that is out of control and perception of acceptance by college officials.

The administration has to set the standard for the students.

And the drop in out of state registrations is unique to CU in regards to the big CO universities.

And I would have found Ward Churchill a shameful professor if I had mistakenly taken one of his classes. I happened across a pretty bad professor this summer that couldn't wait to find ways to bash Bush in her lectures about Western Civilization prior to WW2. If Churchill were as bad as her, he had not business teaching, much less being tenured.

Finally, I did work in Boulder. I lasted just over a year and moved out. The town is ridiculous. There is nothing to covet about working or living there.


83 posted on 02/22/2005 10:01:20 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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OK. Some perspective. I am finding this thread knee jerk and totally out of perspective.

I am a CU Grad. B.S. and M.A. Journalism. I love the place. Much of what is written here is from people who don't have a clue.

The Leftist twits have been part of the landscape for years. However, perhaps my greatest Conservative hero was a faculty member there for decades. Professor Ed Rozek in the Poli.Sci. Dept. had a rough time of it during the crazy 60's and 70's. However, he became an inspiration for hundreds of young Conservatives and many who looked back and acknowledged his correct worldview.

The University has some sensational educational opportunities. The Sciences are first rate. The Engineering School is great. The buisness School graduated my little Brother who is a leader in his field.

Boulder is "Disneyland With Mountains." It's not reality. However, it is a wonderful place to live if you can afford the real estate. The Lefties are so retro they are a hoot. The New Age nonsense is comical. I wouldn't want my kids in Boulder Public Schools. That's a certainty. If my two Boys (13 and 11) want to attend CU I have some real soul searching to do. However, if I've done half the job my parents did they will be fine. There have always been Ward Churchills at CU. I think this entire fiasco will be a wakeup call to provide "REAL" diversity on campus.

Flame on

84 posted on 02/22/2005 10:27:22 PM PST by davidtalker
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I don't think finding a huge chunk of taxpayer money going to purchase alcohol at a school that has a "poor" image in regards to student alcohol abuse a knee jerk reaction. The administration needs to step up and stop this practice not excuse it. They need to set an example for our children attending the school.

In regards to Churchill, you are right, those type of professors are everywhere. With the latest revelation of his admission that he is not an indian, he needs to be fired if the university wants to keep any respectability.

But more importantly, his type of professorship is harmful to students. If, I as a conservative, stood up for my beliefs in his class and classes of professors like him, I would risk a lot. I don't blame the university for it, unless they allow it to continue.


85 posted on 02/23/2005 8:36:58 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I was responding to those trashing the University's academics and overall atmospherics. No doubt these incidents harm the University. I am hopeful it will result in some REAL diversity to emerge. Your points are well taken. I just reacted to some posts questioning CU's overall mission. It's a school with 25,000 students and faculty. Most are dedicated to the pursuit of a strong academic community. Along with some great partying. :)


86 posted on 02/23/2005 9:56:58 PM PST by davidtalker
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No doubt about the quality of some of CU's faculty. How many Nobel science prizes do they have? Just got one recently for something they did in Physics, I think. But, they need to change the public perception.

For instance, when it came out about how much $$$ they spent on alcohol, given their recent problems with student death's, etc, they should have immediately said they will review the practice & revise it. But, instead, they took an excuse approach. And it seems they have been doing that with all of their recent scandals.


87 posted on 02/23/2005 10:00:08 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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5 to 10 percent are rejected for not meeting CU's standards

I guess ... they'll just ... have to stop being so selective ... (snicker snicker) ...
88 posted on 02/23/2005 10:12:26 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Average Qualification of the Freshman Class
High School GPA 3.53
Percentile Rank 77%
SAT I Total 1190
ACT Composite 26

http://www.colorado.edu/prospective/freshman/requirements/criteria.html


89 posted on 02/23/2005 11:05:52 PM PST by davidtalker
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Percentile Rank 77%

Yes, I was a 99er back when it meant something.
And I was never that impressed with myself [total underachiever] (snicker snicker)
90 posted on 02/23/2005 11:56:36 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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