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Time to Move on Cattle ID
Agriculture Online ^ | 2/21/2005 | Betsy Freese

Posted on 02/22/2005 12:10:07 PM PST by Freebird Forever

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1 posted on 02/22/2005 12:10:24 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Freebird Forever

Time to Moooooooooooooooooooooove on, Big Brother.

When are they gonna require we get tagged?


2 posted on 02/22/2005 12:12:04 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: farmfriend

Cattle ID ping


4 posted on 02/22/2005 12:15:27 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Freebird Forever

Horse - the other red meat.


5 posted on 02/22/2005 12:19:09 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

`Garcon, are these--whip-marks on my sirloin?'
(eAt more chikken)


6 posted on 02/22/2005 12:24:27 PM PST by OkieDoke
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
All cattle imported into the US will be identified with an official individual number of the country of origin and/or official tag of the country of origin

When are they gonna require we get tagged?

First they get the bugs worked out by using livestock. Then they can implement this with "guest workers" and other undocumented types.

For honest law abiding citizens, we'll have to take note of how soon electronic medical records become commonplace.

When chip scanners start showing up in hospital ER's the push will occur shortly thereafter.

7 posted on 02/22/2005 12:25:57 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: PAR35
Horse - the other red meat.

The last thing I want to do is imitate the french.

I'll take venison.

9 posted on 02/22/2005 12:30:07 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Freebird Forever
If we get 85-90% signed up, (the program) will stay voluntary. If not, it will go to a mandatory system," said Wilson. The year 2007 is the key - at that time cattle ID will be required by the government, he says

Such politicolawspeak,,, So if EVERYONE does this voluntarily, its not going to be mandatory?

but if we only get 80% to 'volunteer' then we MUST make it mandatory ??? ROTFLMAO Do these dipsh!ts even think before they speak???

10 posted on 02/22/2005 12:36:34 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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To: OkieDoke

Recipes here:

http://www.missouri.edu/~sasb1e/cecs283/Project/recipes.shtml
(includes one dog recipe as well)

and

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/chance88.html


11 posted on 02/22/2005 12:40:28 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Cactuspete

Not really. This will handicap the small cattle producer. Over half of the cattle we ( U.S.) consume come from people with less than 150 head ( a lot of those have less than 50 ).

There will be a crisis in the next 20 years or so when the current generation of independent small ranchers retire/die and nobody steps forward to take their place because of death taxes or the cost of doing business. Then you will see a big change in the U.S. meat supply and the cost.

Attracting new producers is tough unless they are already wealthy enough to start up. The government loan program to assist new people is also not structured to attract new blood.


12 posted on 02/22/2005 12:41:09 PM PST by One Proud Dad
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So if EVERYONE does this voluntarily, its not going to be mandatory

Welcome to the new world order.

13 posted on 02/22/2005 12:46:39 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I've been wondering why the TSA dude insisted on punching a hole in my earlobe.


14 posted on 02/22/2005 12:50:27 PM PST by eno_
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To: Cactuspete
"Sad to say it is a needed program, but it is going to turn into a very expensive cluster-schmuck. But that wont be a problem either, as all those costs will be transferred to the end consumer.

The costs will probably not be passed on to the consumer. When feed or other input costs increase, packers hold the line on prices paid to farmers. When demand for beef increases as it has recently, the packers put the screws to the grocers by raising the price at which they sell. A fat steer is a perishable item in the sense that when it's ready for slaughter, there is continued expense if you don't sell, with no increase in market value. This allows packers to lowball the bids, eventually forcing the cattlemen to sell. Hogs have similar economics, but due to the shorter time from birth to reproduction the impacts aren't as severe. The packers set both the selling price for the live cattle, and the selling price for the meat, with virtually no competition. What little competition there is falls victim to outright collusion among the packers to simply quit bidding at virtually the same price every sale. In any other industry there would be criminal indictments.

15 posted on 02/22/2005 12:57:37 PM PST by JustRight
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To: PAR35

Slab of lab? Poodles with noodles? Rack of Rottweiler?
German Shepherd pot pie?
(Hard to believe some cultures actually eat our best friends)


16 posted on 02/22/2005 1:05:21 PM PST by OkieDoke
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To: JustRight

Listen, someone who knows what he is talking about.


17 posted on 02/22/2005 1:14:36 PM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: Freebird Forever
Then they can implement this with "guest workers" and other undocumented types.

Heh. Just like they'll take guns away from criminals first.

But boy, could you imagine the uproar if they started tagging people as they crossed the border?
18 posted on 02/22/2005 1:20:36 PM PST by self_evident
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>>Rack of Rottweiler? <<

Hey, my neighbor has a Rottweiler I will volunteer for that rack.

Muleteam1

19 posted on 02/22/2005 1:25:38 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: self_evident
But boy, could you imagine the uproar if they started tagging people as they crossed the border?

It's already in the works.

Radio Transmitters May Speed Border Crossings

From the article:

Homeland Security Undersecretary Asa Hutchinson said Tuesday that the government will begin testing radio frequency identification (RFID) technology at this crossing and four others by midsummer. ....
"We do not keep track of who enters this country," Hutchinson said while standing in an inspection booth at a crossing used each year by 5.4 million pedestrians and 3.9 million vehicles. "We need to have a comprehensive system, and that's what our pilot [test] will do." .....
The chip with the identifying information would be placed in a document, such as the State Department issued border crossing cards for those who regularly make short trips across the Mexican border.

Mexico hasn't yet come out and proposed a broad based chipping program, but a one has been instituted :

Microchips Implanted in Mexican Officials

20 posted on 02/22/2005 3:40:40 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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