Then perhaps not Heisenberg.
Posted on 02/22/2005 11:29:33 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
Terri Bump
Then perhaps not Heisenberg.
Celiac disease.
Almost all consistent with longstanding celiac disease. What is their ethnic background?
She was healthy before her marriage. I see the Terri website is having problems transferring the bone scan.
Yes, that is exactly what the doctors found, and what was proved at the malpractice trial.
Even without Michael's testimony, Terri's weight loss from 200 pounds to under 115 without exercise, the condition of her enamel, her infertility, and all her other physiological signs were consistent with her being bulimic. (and likely using other common techniques, like laxatives and diuretics)
The signs were so obvious they found her previous doctors negligent for missing them. They also found Terri 70% at fault for her own condition and subtracted that % from what the original award to her was.
The compression fracture is pretty shocking to me.
Those are also completely consistent with celiac disease.
Other symptoms:
dental enamel defects
osteopenia, osteoporosis
bone or joint pain
fatigue, weakness and lack of energy
infertility
depression
Did anyone discuss her bone scan at the trial? Or are we just trying affix a cause without all of evidence?
Thank you. : )
I hate to seem argumentative, I just hate seeing rumors based on misunderstanding get spread as facts. It isn't fair to anyone, and I think it hurts the credibility of even those who let it keep happening.
There are very good reasons not to remove her tube without flinging around accusations of attempted murder based on such weak evidence.
Primarily, the precedent it would set.
A guardian should show that he has the person's best interest at heart. He hasn't. I don't believe for a second that there is any evidence he caused her collapse, but I think he has shown callous disregard - at best - since his conflict with her parents.
And you just can't use the testimony he used and call it clear and convincing that it's what she wanted.
And even if it were clear and convincing, to me there is enough reason to give her another chance at the latest therapies and then re-evaluate her. I'd take her to Baylor rehab. I trust them.
anyway - i gotta get dinner. : )
Really quick... Could be...
Off the top of my head... you'd think they'd have ruled that out, wouldn't you? But you never know...
One way I can think of, is that the dental signs of bulimia are different - it's a smoothness from enamel erosion that looks different from enamel defects you see from poor absorption.
I also tend to think Terri was such a stressed out perfectionist... it fits with the bulimia. : / But that's purely speculation.
Well Heisenberg, are going to admit you were fibbing or what?
You stated that Dr. William Hammesfahr is a quack - well the following people and organizations do not agree -
"Claims that the revolutionary stroke therapy could not possibly be true, and therefore must be fraudulent, were brought before the Florida Department of Health.
After a thorough investigation, Judge Susan Kirkland (of the Florida Department of Health) declared that Dr. Hammesfahr was "the first physician to treat patients successfully to restore deficits caused by stroke."
"Diane K. Harley, a court-recognized expert in physical therapy located in the Tampa Bay area, reported that most patients in her study had been paralyzed for longer than a year and had no hope of improvement. She tested patients in the study prior to the protocol, and then three weeks into the procedure. Of 242 patients tested, 221 improved within three weeks, and none were harmed."
"Dr. Alex T. Gimon, a Tampa Bay psychologist and a court-recognized expert in neuropsychology and brain injury, tested a group of 168 patients, and then a group of 164 patients. Again, most of these subjects had experienced stroke or brain injury at least a year before the study began, and had discontinued physical and cognitive rehabilitation. Gimon reported marked improvement in most of his test subjects within 15 days.
Acceptance by Medicare is a good sign that a treatment has been accepted into the medical mainstream.
In November of 2002, Medicare approved federal funds for the Hammesfahr treatment, identifying the innovative physician as the first to treat patients with permanent neurological deficits who were previously felt to be untreatable.
Finally, the U.S. Patent Office,
After a five-year investigation,
declared the therapy innovative and effective, and issued a patent. "
Re:
Strokes can now often be treated successfully with medications years after the original incident. Dr. William Hammesfahr, a Florida physician, discovered that the use of FDA-approved hypertension and cardiac disease medications can produce significant improvement in cognitive, personality, intellectual and memory function in most patients with brain injury or stroke.
For this discovery, Hammesfahr was nominated in 1999 for the Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology.
Previously, it was believed that stroke victims saw whatever improvement there would be within the first few hours, and that there would be little or no improvement thereafter. Medications given after strokes were mainly to prevent further strokes.
And -
Dr. William Hammesfahr, M.D., Nobel Prize Nominee, To Speak At National Peripheral Neuropathy Convention
Dr. Hammesfahr will be commenting on the connection between neuropathy pain and poor blood flow and treatment options to help relieve pain and other symptoms caused by the condition. Dr. Hammesfahr is a recognized expert in treating neurological disorders through improving and normalizing blood flow into the damaged areas.
ORLANDO, FL (PRWEB) June 25, 2004 -- Dr. William Hammesfahr, M.D. ,noted neurologist, will be speaking at the National Peripheral Neuropathy Convention in Orlando on Saturday, June 26, 2004. Dr. Hammesfahr will be a featured lecturer, speaking about “Neuropathy Pain” and “Diabetic Neuropathy.” Dr. Hammesfahr will be commenting on the connection between neuropathy pain and poor blood flow and treatment options to help relieve pain and other symptoms caused by the condition. Dr. Hammesfahr is a recognized expert in treating neurological disorders through improving and normalizing blood flow into the damaged areas.
And you say he's a quack?! Many people have testified differently as well as the U.S. Patent Office and Medicare!
No, the bone scan was not brought into evidence at the trial.
But, it wasn't necessary.
1. It would not have contradicted or accounted for the collection of her other symptoms and diagnosis. In fact, it fits with it (see below)
2. It wouldn't have explained how she lost O2 to her brain, (unless her hyoid bone was broken too, but then you still have to explain her other problems that such a strangling or even suffocation wouldn't have caused)
3. She lacked the signs they'd have seen had she been so assaulted. Occams razor.
If anything, it just supports the diagnosis.
Women with eating disorders can lose up to 30% of their bone mass in a year. Her tests showed her as low in calcium and undernourished.
Most of the things on that bone scan are compression/hairline fractures, non-specific irregularities, or bruising (The radiologist clearly said her femur was NOT broken, it was *bruised*.)
My sister is in her 30s, and also has compression fractures in her back top to bottom - and she was never even bulimic or frank anorexic - she just has osteoporosis because she has abused laxatives and diuretics and undereaten. No other reason - the trauma was just daily knocks and dings. She and I both have herniated disks.
Terri's ribs were actually fractured as they commonly are when someone is given CPR.
I haven't commented on this before, because I don't want to be flamed, lol. And I really don't want to get into a big debate over it.
I just personally see nothing of value in it, I think it is really bad to keep exaggerating what the actual report says, and most of all, I think we detract from the best arguments when we go in that direction.
In other words, you can't admit you lied about the court decision.
I suppose she got them in the hospital, right?
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