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Hillary Clinton's Popularity Up in State, Even Among Republicans
NY Times ^ | 2/22/05 | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Posted on 02/21/2005 8:32:45 PM PST by Libloather

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To: Gunslingr3
By getting some of the rightfully fed up conservative vote, she won't need any hispanics.

BTW, I don't think all hispanics want illegal immigration
21 posted on 02/21/2005 8:47:21 PM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: Libloather

Think back to John (the French Looking One) Kerry back in March,2004. He had a free ride from the liberal media(a redundantcy), he had a low negative number, high positives, and then the Bush team went to work to define him, and the whole picture changed.

Analyzing and polling H. R.Clinton's chances for 2008 right now is so premature and futile, it makes as much sense as analyzing the election in Iran, which will probably take place before then.

Vince Foster's mistress could have a 0 negative rating and it wouldn't matter, until her opponents begin to define her
as the power-hungry political beast she really is.


22 posted on 02/21/2005 8:48:13 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: Libloather

I'll tell ya'll what made me sick tonight---

I made the mistake of watching Joe Scarborough---at the very end of his show, he showed exerpts of Hillary's interview on MTP yesterday morning---after that, they had a picture of her in the upper right corner of the screen with the words "Hillary Watch" above her head and a "clock" with 1,300 and something days until 2008 on it, and Joe said that everyday they would let US know what Hillary is doing in her quest for the White HOuse---

Now, I thought the MSM went WAY overboard in propping up Kerry, but this is ridiculous---every single night they are gonna give Hillary FREE tv time to her campaign---she hasn't even officially declared herself a candidate for Senator yet, let alone President!!!

Of course the rest of Joe's show before the big unveiling of the Hillary Watch cam was about the Bush tapes and whether Bush set this up with Doug Wead---blech------


23 posted on 02/21/2005 8:48:27 PM PST by Txsleuth (Call be anything...just don't call me a fringe poster)
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To: dahicks

You might say that about McCain as well.


24 posted on 02/21/2005 8:49:21 PM PST by Lombardo
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To: Libloather

Let the NY Times dress this pig up for the slaughter.


25 posted on 02/21/2005 8:50:12 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Libloather

New York Republicans that voted for Bloomberg? LOL

Oh, I know there are SOME real Republicans in N.Y. but most would be considered Liberals in any other state.

Nice try N.Y.T.'s but McCain and N.Y. Republicans are not a good litmus test and you know it.


26 posted on 02/21/2005 8:50:41 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: RoseofTexas

Horse patootie is cheaper by the railcar, yaknow.

NYT sure loaded up this one, tho.


27 posted on 02/21/2005 8:54:07 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Libloather

Just get used to it. Hillary has learned to be an effective and supple politician. She's come a long way baby.


28 posted on 02/21/2005 8:54:17 PM PST by Torie
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To: Zivasmate
[Kerry] had a free ride from the liberal... he had a low negative number, high positives, and then the Bush team went to work to define him, and the whole picture changed.

Thats not the way I saw it. We had a war-time President up against Kerry's incompetent campaign and we won by a mere 120k in Ohio. If not for the Swifties and Rathergate...

29 posted on 02/21/2005 8:54:59 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Barnyard

NEW YORK


I'm sure folks in liberal places like New York (who elected two liberal Senators) and California would like her.

But keep in mind, even in those states, there are a ton of folks that hate her.

Which means out in the Nation, where liberals are less and even some Dems tend to get it.........they won't have a high view of her.


30 posted on 02/21/2005 8:55:58 PM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: NYC GOP Chick; TheGrimReaper

FCOL ping.


31 posted on 02/21/2005 8:57:04 PM PST by secret garden (Go Spurs Go!)
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To: Fenris6
Its a push-piece. Readers will view Hillary as more moderate b/c the NYT says she is. This is a typical MO of the Clinton Gang. Expect to see many more such charades.
By 2008, 51% of America will think Hillary sits to the right of Colin Powell. We've got a ton of work to do before then.


Exactly. Ignore Dean. Support W. Fight Hillary.
32 posted on 02/21/2005 8:59:19 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: Torie

She's going to get trounced. She has evil written all over her face. Donate big !


33 posted on 02/21/2005 9:00:24 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Txsleuth

"Every single night they are gonna give Hillary FREE tv time to her campaign---she hasn't even officially declared herself a candidate for Senator yet, let alone President"

That's how she is getting these high approval numbers. You should see the incredibly positive coverage the local NY media (NY Post is the exception) gives her. According to them, she's fighting for veterans, fighting for anti-terrorism funding, finding "common ground" on abortion, fighting quality-of-life problems related to immigration.

Mark my words.. the NY GOP can barely hold it together for the governor's race, and they have little prospect of fielding any serious challenger for her Senate seat. She has a clear shot at the Democratic nomination in 2008.

And Hillary knows how to count. She sees loony left field is crowded (with anti-Patriot-Act Sen. Feingold, anti-military Dean, a confused John Kerry, and perhaps vote conspiracy Barbara Boxer), so she's gonna play right field. And that will only benefit her in the general election.

I agree with other posters.. don't underestimate this woman.


34 posted on 02/21/2005 9:00:45 PM PST by nj26
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To: dahicks

The Republicans in New York are the ones that helped elect Bloomberg as mayor---he is NOT a Republican!!!


35 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:11 PM PST by Txsleuth (Call be anything...just don't call me a fringe poster)
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To: Vision

Hillary's bid may not work, but it has been in the works a long time, and her positioning is being crafted and re-crafted virtually every day. It is illusion, of course, that is being created by the NYT---if the writer is persuasive enough, who has the wherewithal to marshal enough facts to refute him? So we are left with a self-fulfulling prophesy, MAYBE. The claim that she has Republican support is something I have no trouble believing .Most of them are RINOs and they'd be willing to give someone like Hillary a wide berth as she goes about proving to the voting public that she's a DINO. Whoever is best as the game as far as they're concerned is the one who deserves to win.


36 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:18 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Vision

Hillary's bid may not work, but it has been in the works a long time, and her positioning is being crafted and re-crafted virtually every day. It is illusion, of course, that is being created by the NYT---if the writer is persuasive enough, who has the wherewithal to marshal enough facts to refute him? So we are left with a self-fulfulling prophesy, MAYBE. The claim that she has Republican support is something I have no trouble believing .Most of them are RINOs and they'd be willing to give someone like Hillary a wide berth as she goes about proving to the voting public that she's a DINO. Whoever is best as the game as far as they're concerned is the one who deserves to win.


37 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:28 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Libloather

This goes to show that Long Island and Up-state NY are full of RINOs, who think its 'cool' to have a celebrity as their Senator.

This is just a taste of things to come from the media. Just wait; the terms "moderate" and "centrist" will be applied by the mainstream media to Hillary more times in the next 4 yrs than it has been to all other people who ever lived, combined!

By the time they are through, Webster will have added "Hillary Clinton" as one of its definitions for a moderate or centrist.


38 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:32 PM PST by Aetius
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To: Libloather

A measure of how far Senator Clinton has come was on display Sunday when Senator John McCain, Republican from Arizona, said on "Meet the Press" that he thought Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, would make a good president

John McCain, now that's a real testimony to the heartbeat of the Republican party. He doesn't even rate RINO status.
I can see it now, Clinton/McCain 08.


39 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:52 PM PST by conshack
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To: nj26
I agree with other posters.. don't underestimate this woman.

...or we will be banging our heads against the Clinton Machine for another 8 years.

40 posted on 02/21/2005 9:03:44 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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