Posted on 02/21/2005 3:14:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge
LOL!
I hope Arnold never needs a nurse.
Heaven help him, if he ever ends up in an ER or ICU...and the nice nurse has a very sharp needle to stick it to him...
Thank you for grasping the situation.
This isn't about men or women, higher or lower salaries.
This is about safe staffing ratios in hospitals which affects EVERY PERSON ON THIS THREAD and on this forum. Next time people b***h about low quality or absent care in the hospitals, thank Gov. Arnold. He shows little regard for public safety issues both inside and outside healthcare issues. I never thought I would say this, but in some respects we were better off with Davis.
I would assume you are employed in the health care profession.
Davis would likely give Kalifornians the ratio they'd ask for-at the expense of the taxpayer.
BUMP
I would assume you are a human being who may need hospitalization at some point in the future?
Good luck.
Absolutely. The danger of the high ratio of patient to RN has been on the edge for a very long time. People's lives are literally on the balance, and at the hands of the skilled nurse they are under.
And when you get into the more critical areas when some life threatening decisions have to be made literally within seconds, i.e ICU, CCU, ER...your life is literally in that nurse's (male or female) hands.
RN's are definitely the angels of mercy!
The special interest groups are the sexists here, not the Governor. They are the ones calling nurses, teachers, and aides "women's professions." What about all the men that are employed in those fields?
I would assume you are a human being who may need hospitalization at some point in the future?
Good luck.
I have in the past and likely will in the future. I don't get your point. During my 20 years in the military, I wanted more pay, less hours, more time with my family, more understanding from my leaders, et al, but you know what, it didn't happen. If you want one to one ratio, consider being a private duty nurse. Then again, call Davis back into office and he'll get it.
I would assume you are a human being who may need hospitalization at some point in the future?
Good luck.
I have in the past and likely will in the future. I don't get your point. During my 20 years in the military, I wanted more pay, less hours, more time with my family, more understanding from my leaders, et al, but you know what, it didn't happen. If you want one to one ratio, consider being a private duty nurse. Then again, call Davis back into office and he'll get it.
It's all about the money.
You nurses and teachers already make 5 times what the hardworking farmworker does. I assume you'll want to be eating sometime in the future. You would want some safe food, wouldn't you?
If you really cared about anybody else but yourselves -- you wouldn't be making these veiled threats of witholding services if you don't get your raises.
Why don't you people just slash a few IV tubes to make your point?
You are correct in that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Patient acuities in the hospitals are much higher today than they were in years past. Today's floor patients were in the ICUs several years ago. Add to that we are in the midst of a nursing shortage, the reason for that being another post all together. So while you project your personal hostilities and ignorance on to me and other nurses, you will find yourself without care if there are no nurses to take care of you. This is about providing the necessary care which patients require, not salaries or cushy jobs as you pretend. A normal ICU ratio to provide adequate care is 1:1 or 1:2. Anymore than that and lives are in danger. The next time you find yourself in the hospital you will consider yourself lucky IF you get all your medications and treatments on time, if at all. You are ignorant on this topic. Today's nurses hit the ground running for 13 hours. He or she barely has time to go to the bathroom or eat. If you and a few others spent less time talking and more time observing and listening to the problems within hospitals you would save yourself some embarrassment.
You are ignorant. I am embarrassed for you.
Why can't you union lobbyists play it straight and just pay off your legislators?
I understand the Democrats still control the assembly.
Guess I've had it wrong all along. The world revolves around nurses. No other profession in society does more for mankind than nurses. Forget about doctors, aides, orderlies etc. Nurses(and teachers) are relatively well paid for their professions.
Since you are so good at identifying ignorance, perhaps you should go back to school and become a teacher. Better yet, maybe you ought to go to a country where the family has to look after the patient, whether they're post-op, ICU, et al. Get a grip and realize that you are well compensated for what you do. If you are unable to do that, flip burgers for a living(there's a bit of stress in that job too). No need to reply.
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