Posted on 02/20/2005 11:26:14 AM PST by Former Military Chick
First many of you know I have been following the case. I have been posting articles as they become available, usually off the Military Early Bird. Anyway this article was posted in November. It received posts from fellow Freepers. It was an excellent debate based on the facts we knew to that point.
Fast forward and I posted the AP article that was coinciding with 60 Minutes story that aired tonight.
As I was looking at the replies from the AP story and I noticed comment 16 . The same poster posted comment 17 as I read it I thought he had reported me for doing something wrong. I read it again, than asked beloved to look and the light bulb went on. Evidently someone decided to hijack the thread I had posted to a pro/donations Jennifer Dyer website. They did not point out it was a NY Times article.
What has me screaming at the top of my little typing fingers, the characteriztion of the thread on Free Republic. I have a feeling after you read the following you might agree.
11-09
Officer Who Said She Was Raped at Base Can Report Elsewhere (much more to the story, outrageous) Characterizes Jennifer as a black lesbian leftist activist who joined the military for the purpose of attacking it.
I did a search on the article that was linked to the OTHER site and the term "BLACK" was used 3 times. Then I did for lesbian, leftist and NOTHING.
If they felt compelled to post something on their website they should get it right. There was no bashing only discussion about getting to the truth and her going AWOL. Shheesh!
I do hope I did not make it more confusing for the reader. -FMC
They also claimed that "Jack Dalton, the author who broke the story, has tried repeatedly to address them and set her record straight only to be immediately banned from their forum and having his posts deleted."
I just checked: at least one of his posts is still there, and he hasn't been banned.
They uttered a false statement, and one which is easily checked. I'm puzzled.
Are they preaching to a choir that would never come here and check? Could it possibly be an honest mistake? Or do we again behold the gruesome visage of the malicious liar?
I went back and checked my threads that are on my computer and he only posted those 2 and frankly I do not trust a word he says. I mean he leveled some serious accusations regarding the comments that I and my fellow Freepers have made on Free Republic as it pertains to this issue.
I am very angry about this.
Thank you for taking a moment to respond to the thread.
Clearly these needs to be addressed.
Here is the first article that was part of a previous thread that Mr. Dalton claimed to write:
An Act of Betrayal: The Rape of 1stLT Jennifer Dyer
Jack Dalton-Jack Dalton is a disabled Vietnam veteran very involved with military and veterans affairs. He can be reached at jack_dalton@ommp.org additionally all info on Jennifer will be posted on his web site www.ommp.prg
My goodness, anger can sure keep one awake. I went ahead and pulled all the threads I had posted on the alleged rape victim along with a couple others posted by other Freepers.
I only found one comment removed, it is suspect that what he says happened. Angry in the heartland.
Hell no! They ARRANGED it, obviously!
Don't spend too much of yourself on this. Not worth it.
People are always lying about FR.
You are so totally wrong about my posts. I, too was dismayed at that sites bashing of FR. Which is why I also pinged Jim Robinson. I was trying to show the fact that there was someone mischaracterizing Free Republic on an antiwar/liberal/military hating website. Perhaps I was not clear.
I thought you should see the negative treatment of FR. Also, I thought, and still think that it's important for everyone to have all the information about this woman and her supporters. Even supporter from "the other" side.
I made it perfectly clear that I am not well read on this incident and only posted that information for everyone's benefit. If you wish to have a discussion about this I am more than willing to do so. Just ping me.
You have a long ping list on this post. Please ping everyone to this post so they may know the truth.
The next time you want to "expose" someone it would be best if you talked to them first so you won't be " screaming at the top of my little typing fingers..." anymore.
I know, hell she has been discharged honorably perhaps we need to cease her 15 minutes of fame. Granted if she is a victim well she sure has conducted herself in an odd way.
The idea that the website remarked on the thread by saying we used certain words well how rude.
Guess that is the left for you. Oops used the "left" word, stop the presses go to the blogger!
Firstly, it is impossible that she was raped, as an officer and a gentleman that would just never occur, would it?
"The next time you want to "expose" someone it would be best if you talked to them first so you won't be " screaming at the top of my little typing fingers..."
PMJI, but I think she was talking about that Jack Dalton character there.
I don't think she's accusing you of anything, or seeking to quarrel with you.
Geez, so much confusion.
Ray, I think FMC was bagging on "Jack Dalton," not you.
I went to that old post on 1LT Dyer and a couple of things that people posted were pretty out-of-whack to me. People did speculate that she was black, (one said, "minority"), that she had been seeking a discharge and fabricated the charges, etc. To someone who is not a FReeper it would be pretty easy to make a false assumption about our community.
Actually, if you read the thread, most of the superheated speculation was debunked and criticised by other FReepers. I think FMC made a couple of these moderating comments. Someone posted a picture of the LT -- she's an average looking white woman, probably a bottle blonde from her brown eyes & brows.
As far as references to her sexuality, there's only a mention of a fiance, who has a male name, anyway. For crying out loud...
FR's a self correcting environment that seldom requires the mods or JimRob to step in. When it does, they do. But I have to admit I was pretty skeeved to see people assuming she was some race or other because she is having trouble following some Army directives after her alleged rape.
About the weird stuff that others say about FR -- I dunno what can be done to counter that. I mean, there are sites where moonbats who were tossed off here congregate and talk smack about FR to while away their days. What can you do about that?
In my mind, the right remedy for false or unsubstantiated information is -- true, documented information. We have very little about the Dyer case, and perhaps FMC is right that her attempts to try this case in the press presage the running out of her 15-minute hourglass of fame. It looks like she will have a chance to present her charges, which is what she wanted. Perhaps them we will have enough factual information to support opinions! And perhaps not.
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
Thank you all for corrcting me and pointing out FMC's intentions. I misread the pronouns in her sentence and thought she was referring to me.
I am sorry for the confusion.
I just wanted everyone to see how FR was maligned at another site and so I linked to it.
I would never do anything to malign or defame FR. It truly is the best site in cyberspace.
Ray
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