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A genius explains - [an autistic savant describes how he thinks]
Guardian (U.K.) ^ | February 12, 2005 | Richard Johnson

Posted on 02/19/2005 6:45:18 PM PST by snarks_when_bored

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To: xm177e2
The ones who hate gays the most are the ones who tell them it is OK.

Homosexuality is inseparable from the moral issue behind it.

There is hope for homosexuals. The reprobates that use the issue of homosexuality as a social-political weapon do not have any hope.

Jesus said that Sodom would never have been destroyed if it had seen His works and repented.

Hoping that homosexuals will do what God requires to escape His wrath does not make me, in your words, a "gay-hater".

Sitting back and pretending everything is OK while homosexuals and the rest of society drive off a spiritual cliff is not love.
121 posted on 02/19/2005 10:48:28 PM PST by unlearner
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To: unlearner

Very well put.


122 posted on 02/19/2005 10:49:50 PM PST by datura (Stress is best relieved using therapeutic high explosives.)
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To: DannyTN

A "Christian" who has another man as the "love of his life".


123 posted on 02/19/2005 10:50:09 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Williams

To psychologists who study personality development, it is diagnostic. For instance, Temple Grandin is asexual so she states in her book. I don't think she experiences the range of human emotion that this fellow does. She seems more severely autistic. She was autistic at birth rather than from a neurologic disorder. The development of autism following an epileptic fit is unknown to me. That's probably the most interesting thing in this article.


124 posted on 02/19/2005 10:56:13 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: snarks_when_bored; DannyTN
"[his homosexuality] was noted earlier on the thread"

I am not protesting your posting of the article. Just disagreeing with how the author handled this issue.

The article is interesting when it comes to the issue of how the mind works.

I did not catch the earlier thread you mentioned. I thought I read them all. OK. See it now. Number 4.

(hello DannyTN, my pretrib friend, we meet again)
125 posted on 02/19/2005 11:03:58 PM PST by unlearner
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To: The Westerner

Sorry. Just reread the article. Neil was a headbanger as an infant. That's a sign that something was wrong from birth. He was fortunate to have such sensitive, kind parents. Both he and Temple Grandin share that in common. The same child with problematic parents probably would never go on to earn a living and live independently.

When I first started working with autistics, everyone believed Bruno Bettleheim's idea that the cause of autism lies in the mother/child attachment. After spending time with toddlers who are autistic, it was obvious to me that they react to perceptual stimuli differently than other children...and it had nothing to do with their parents. It seems to be a problem in the nervous system.


126 posted on 02/19/2005 11:08:45 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: Alouette

All I know is, that I think in the language I happen to be speaking at the time.


127 posted on 02/19/2005 11:19:13 PM PST by rock58seg (The real enemy of good is perfect.)
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To: unlearner

Understood.


128 posted on 02/19/2005 11:21:08 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Melas

The difference between science and the fuzzy subjects is that science requires reasoning, while those other subjects merely require scholarship.

ROBERT HEINLEIN


129 posted on 02/19/2005 11:28:53 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (a bullet only costs two bits.)
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To: patton
Is Calcul[u]s the word, or the image? I argue image, but I could see Lebesgue disagreeing.

I think Manin would argue that much of mathmatics—calculus included, of course—is image and word (see his second, third and fourth paragraphs). The warning that he offers in his last paragraph is directed at the larger culture rather than at mathematics (although I can't help but think that, say, Stephen Wolfram isn't on Manin's short list of best buddies).

130 posted on 02/19/2005 11:50:05 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: humblegunner

Intresting. I'd like to know about it.


131 posted on 02/19/2005 11:57:45 PM PST by Flyer (The contents of this information is for your exclusive use and should not be forum curran)
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To: xm177e2

I, too, got a low score.

was hoping for a higher one. :(


132 posted on 02/20/2005 12:08:27 AM PST by TheBrotherhood ("cupido capere et videri gravis" or somesuch.)
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To: Sloth

It only implies about a relationship not necesarily homosexual. He may not be able to have or relate to anything intimate.


133 posted on 02/20/2005 12:13:26 AM PST by bdfromlv (leavenworth hard time)
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To: unlearner

"Is this a casual mention that Tammet is a homosexual?"

The whole piece is, in my opinion, a pro-homo one.

Notice how the author speaks well of Tammet, of his abilities, and then suddently at the very end tells us of his homo leanings?

The intent of the author is to think positively of homos.


134 posted on 02/20/2005 12:28:38 AM PST by TheBrotherhood ("cupido capere et videri gravis" or somesuch.)
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To: xm177e2

"This would make a perfect personals ad."

It would, but it depends on you gender.


135 posted on 02/20/2005 12:34:06 AM PST by TheBrotherhood ("cupido capere et videri gravis" or somesuch.)
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To: datura

Have potent hallucinogens been tested on those with autism?


136 posted on 02/20/2005 12:40:35 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (PROPHETIC list of Communist goals SPREAD THE WORD!: http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm)
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To: DannyTN

Well, I'm being shouted down as a bigot and homophobe at the university I attend for letting those views be known. We were asked to give our views on how we would "help" a lesbian couple who came to us wanting to adopt children.

There were several statements of "That's great", "good for them", etc. while the poor conservative students just sat there silent, afraid to say anything.

I actually made the shocking statement in class that heterosexual parenting was the norm and then devastated them by saying that nature discriminated against homosexuals having children by not providing them with the proper... ahem... tools. Jaws were dropped everywhere.

One young feminist replied, "Well, you're making a cultural criticism." I said, "No, I'm making a scientific criticism."

Then the instructor smarmily replied, "But with the technology that exists today, a man is not even needed to have children." To which I replied, with the intellectual complexity of a Darwin, "But you still need his sperm." Silence.

BTW, This is the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville. They've just opened up the Clinton School of Public Service: http://clintonschool.uasys.edu/


137 posted on 02/20/2005 12:55:57 AM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

ping


138 posted on 02/20/2005 1:29:06 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: little jeremiah

I guess that he had trouble with plugs, should have been my first clue that something was wrong.


139 posted on 02/20/2005 2:47:28 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: streetpreacher

I hope that's not representative of class rooms across the nation.

I would have had to have said the best way to help that couple is to let them know that their lifestyle is not normal and that if they truly loved the kids they would want those kids to grow up in a normal household with a father present.


140 posted on 02/20/2005 2:52:18 AM PST by DannyTN
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