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Sen. Clinton Says Iraq Insurgents Failing
NY Times ^ | February 19, 2005 | NA

Posted on 02/19/2005 11:03:06 AM PST by neverdem

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To: KiloLima
When was the "I'm sick and tired...!" speech given and on what topic?

Sounds quite familiar, but 'fraid I dunno.

However, if I were near Hillary Rodham, and she said "I'm sick and tired..." I might be wary for an airborne lamp launched along my azimuth.

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241 posted on 02/19/2005 8:15:48 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: FairOpinion

We still have troops in Japan, Germany, and South Korea. Lessee now, how many years since WW II and Korea?


242 posted on 02/20/2005 9:03:12 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: not2shabby
I live next to the military base in Groton Conn. Being more conservative than a new englander is not that hard to do

It is when you're a NY Democratic pol.

243 posted on 02/20/2005 11:25:49 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: neverdem
Thanks for getting back to me!

"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic," a shrill-sounding Clinton shouted during her address to Connecticut's Jefferson Jackson Bailey dinner.

"We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration," she shrieked.

Yeah, go for it, Hill!

244 posted on 02/20/2005 1:45:24 PM PST by KiloLima (Political correctness is the real quagmire...)
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To: Seaplaner

See post no. 206, this thread.


245 posted on 02/20/2005 1:46:19 PM PST by KiloLima (Political correctness is the real quagmire...)
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To: Seaplaner
I agree about the power lust, but I do believe that she is true to her convictions.

I think that she wants to preside over an American make-over in which we become a Utopian collective. She has already shown that she wants to separate us from our choice family doctors, and that she hates the military (and they know it, BTW).

I believe that Hillary indeed has a hidden core (albeit a far left one) and that she likely has carefully prepared plans. I'd love to know the contents of her Wellesley thesis, for her true convictions just might be outlined right there.

I was thinking about this in the bath-tub this morning. (Don't laugh!)

I have to argue that Hillary does not have true convictions. It is her ambition to realize a socialist America and to see "President" in front of her name.

People who have convictions are proud of them and would not speak the opposite in public.

Hillary, with socialized medicine and child care, military cutbacks, etc., would take away freedom and liberty from the people. The leader, as in Cuba, would become a dictator which would give her more power than a President normally has. So, ultimately, it is more power for Hillary via the ideology. Any ideology, such as Marxism, that states "The end justifies the means" is lacking in conviction. It is an ambition. That is her core.

246 posted on 02/20/2005 2:09:16 PM PST by KiloLima (Political correctness is the real quagmire...)
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To: demkicker

Thanks for the Ping.

I read the transcript since I didn't see the press conference.

Sometimes I wonder if some of our senators and reps are being manipulative or just REALLY stupid.

McCain sometimes says things where I just shake my head and wonder if he thought about what he said before he said or if he just doesn't care. This is one of those times.

Was there a synapse malfunction in his brain or is he just a jerk?


247 posted on 02/20/2005 5:56:22 PM PST by hansel
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To: KiloLima
K.L. you make an interesting point, suggesting that Hillary does not have true convictions because if she did, she would proudly state her ambitions in public.

I follow your line of thinking, however...

Consider Hillary's mentor, Saul Alinsky, the practical revolutionary.

Alinsky said many creepy, scary things, I'll paraphrase a couple.

First - pretending to moral (in this case being supportive of our Military and our Country) is a 'passport' to desired objectives.

Second, Alinsky also said something to the effect that treason isn't treason to a revolutionary. (I don't know if Hillary takes it this far, let's hope not.)

Thus, a true revolutionary would have no compunction about donning a patriotic cloak while scheming less-than-patriotic schemes.

If convictions are beliefs that one holds with moral certainty, then one could believe that masking values and intent are one's convictions.

Sorry to be tedious on the point. Glad you are pursuing the issue.

248 posted on 02/20/2005 10:01:42 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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