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CBS: Rove- Gannon Connection?
CBS ^ | 2/18/05 | Dotty Lynch

Posted on 02/18/2005 4:13:55 PM PST by KidGlock

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To: Mo1

I have seen, tonight, where Olbermann is falsely reporting on the issue....hoping to make something bigger out of it...than really is.

I have been looking at Olbermann transcripts tonight.

Online at msnbc.com

Looks like Olbermann is fabricating a lot of stuff.

NOTE- He has yet to show where the articles that Gannon guy wrote were fake. They are posted on MensNewsDaily.com.
And I cross checked some stuff he wrote with reports filed by folks at MSNBC.com...and CNN...and White House press releases. What Gannon wrote......was real. The White House Statements, and statements of others, are actually what was said or released.

Olbermann, Dana Milbanks, and the guy from Editor& Publisher keep calling Gannons reports fake...and keep refering Talon News a "fake web site"...or "phone web site"
I went to Talon News.....and guess what....there is a web site called Talon News. It does have news reports filed on the site.

It seems Gannon, when first reporting, worked for that GOP USA site....in a section they had set up for news.
Well guess what....GOP USA is a real site as well.
I went and looked on there. Its a real web site...it exists. The GOPUSA news section is now what is called Talon News.

Everytime Olbermann brings the issue up....he tries to imply that there is a question as to who gives out daily press passes.

He tries to find some way to give the impression that the white house press sec. does it.

I have found many different times in his transcripts where the guest he is interviewing....
Usually the some guy named Mitchell from Editor and Publisher magazine....has told that the Press Sec. has nothing to do with it....and it is handled at a much lower level.

WHY DOES OLBERMANN KEEP BRINGING THAT UP...IF HIS OWN SHOW HAS HAD SOMEONE ON WHO SAYS IT IS HANDLED AT A LOWER LEVEL.

Furthermore....I have seen several cases where Olbermann has flat out lied about the story. Sees like he is making stuff up as he goes along.

From what I have seen...Editor and Publisher guy is a major liberal and that would explain why that reporter, Gannon, won't talk to him. Because E&P may be falsely reporting stuff.


141 posted on 02/19/2005 12:09:41 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud
From what I have seen...Editor and Publisher guy is a major liberal and that would explain why that reporter, Gannon, won't talk to him. Because E&P may be falsely reporting stuff.

I tried doing some reseach on him earlier .. but I got side tracked

Thanks for the info ..

142 posted on 02/19/2005 12:15:03 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: cyncooper
From that link:

The battle plan is based on a concept developed at the National Defense University. It's called "Shock and Awe" and it focuses on the psychological destruction of the enemy's will to fight rather than the physical destruction of his military forces.

143 posted on 02/19/2005 12:15:23 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Smoke free since January 16, 2005)
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To: Ben Hecks

I think your link brings us back to this thread.


144 posted on 02/19/2005 12:19:55 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Mo1; Howlin; All

It is interesting the E&P claims that is what he told them...


For some reason, I doubt they are willing to produce a tape of their call with Gannon.

We have seen several times in the past couple of weeks where E&P has written something on their web site...and by the time their guy goes on Olbermann's show....they are saying something different.

I have a strong suspect of mind that Gannon told E&P he was not going to talk to them explicitly.

And they reported it as..."he said he won't talk to the media".

Proof of this would be from E&P itself. The link from the Dkos post goes to a E&P page. It states in the write up how Gannon told them that he will go to the right outlet to tell his side.
If Gannon told them that he would not talk, as they claim. Then how is it he would tell them that he was gonna go to the right outlet to get his side out there???

Seems E&P is upset that Gannon won't speak with them...but will speak with others. Same with Olbermann. Gannon has been on CNN and other places....and Olbermann is so upset that every other group is getting interviews with Gannon...that he has now decided to go off the deep end and misreport what the story is.


145 posted on 02/19/2005 12:31:18 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: prairiebreeze; backhoe; Mo1

YOU are correct!

Shock and Awe is the term that came out in a book and policy set that was written years ago.

Several Generals and mil policy makers took part in the sort of conference from which the idea came from.

As a matter of fact...it was not the Pentagon that first said Shock and Awe. It was reporters....who knew about the book.


146 posted on 02/19/2005 12:34:00 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: Buckhead


Didn't you hear, Buckhead?

Next week Olbermann is gonna claim that you are Deep Throat.


147 posted on 02/19/2005 12:52:47 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: dirtboy

ping


148 posted on 02/19/2005 1:35:42 AM PST by Mercat (Andy walks with me Andy talks with me, Andy tells me I am His own.)
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To: KidGlock

From the Thornburgh Report:

Dotty Lynch, CBS News’ Senior Political Editor....recalled having discussions with Mapes over Labor Day weekend, about the September 8 Segment. Who is Dotty Lynch? She is CBS News’ “Senior Political Editor” and a self-described “very ardent feminist” and longtime partisan liberal political operative. Before joining CBS, Lynch directed polling for George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Ted Kennedy, Gary Hart, Walter Mondale and the DNC.

149 posted on 02/19/2005 1:49:06 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Deb
Rove/GOP conspiracy like Watergate "plumbers"

Watch Eric Burns on "Fox News Watch" on Saturday. He is going to name "Deep-throat" who is a female, he says.

Fox News Watch, airs on FOX News Channel Saturdays at 6:30 p.m. ET and re-airs Saturdays at 11:30 p.m. ET, Sundays at 2:30 a.m. ET and 6:30 a.m. ET and finally on Monday mornings at 2:30 a.m. ET.

150 posted on 02/19/2005 2:02:10 AM PST by kcvl
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To: cyncooper; prairiebreeze

Thanks for the info and links. I knocked off FR and watched CPAC w/the Swiftboat Vets.......absolutely awesome speeches. Catch it on the rerun if you did not see it.


151 posted on 02/19/2005 2:41:54 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: kcvl
Before joining CBS, Lynch directed polling for George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Ted Kennedy, Gary Hart, Walter Mondale and the DNC.

Dotti's been lost in her life for quite a while it appears.

152 posted on 02/19/2005 4:53:21 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Blogs have a strangle hold on the MSM. The MSM is kicking out the windshield.)
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To: murdoog
A lot of our conspiracy theories (e.g. Vince Foster) actually DID make sense.

I agree. Some made sense (although I don't think the Clintons had Foster bumped off, someone else did)

But some of those theories didn't make sense. And we got singed on a few, such as Danny Williams. But looking back, there was a cottage conspiracy industry peddling those - remember Drudge promoting Danny Williams as an earth-shattering story, with Newsmax piling on? All because they thought that they could link Danny's DNA to Clinton's DNA published in the Starr Report. Whoops, they couldn't.

But after a couple of years of that, we started to sober up and look at the internet as an investigative, organizational and journalistic medium - and started assuming some old-school journalistic ethics that, ironically, had all-but been abandonded by the MSM. The quality of our fact-checking, writing and analysis improved. So did our speed and our understanding of the strengths and limitations of the medium. To where we run circles around the MSM today. They still gather much of the news. But they can't spin it any longer, or omit key facts, or engage in out-and-out fallacies like this piece. And it's driving them bonkers.

And the left-wing bloggers and forums are eight years behind up. EIGHT YEARS. That's an eternity. And not only that, they are not trying to come up with their own model for success, they are emulating what we did with Clinton. They are calling Bush a liar every chance they get, whether or not the facts fit the charge, because, hey, that's a label that eventually stuck on Clinton. And they want their impeachment and want it bad - to the point where an idiot reporter for the Philly Daily News is maintaining a countdown to Bush's impeachment on his blog - timed when Nixon would have been impeached had he stayed in office.

It's so typically liberal. Out of step with the times. Imitating, not innovating. And attempting to furiously pound square pegs into round holes, all the while blaming Karl Rove for the fact that the pegs no longer are round, instead of finding the proper square hole for the peg.

153 posted on 02/19/2005 5:27:22 AM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sorry about that! Try this one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1341610/posts


154 posted on 02/19/2005 5:33:40 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: KidGlock
In the words of our beloved Ronald Reagan, "There they (CBS) go again." (head shaking no)

CBS is determined to create a scandal in the Bush administration. They're like a dog on a bone. Trouble is, the red meat is all gone and they're slowing dying of scandal starvation. Good riddance!!!
155 posted on 02/19/2005 5:38:40 AM PST by demkicker (I'm Ra th er sick of Dan)
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To: gopwinsin04

Nothing new here....You're right! Same old drivel, lies and allegations.
One sentence really bothers me:

The New York Times as introducing "Senators to the meaning of 'blogging,' explaining the basics of self-published online political commentary and arguing that it can affect public opinion."

So what the next step? "Senator, you must control blogging because it can affect public opinion and we at the NYTABCNBCCBS are losing control over the people's minds."


156 posted on 02/19/2005 5:47:09 AM PST by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: KidGlock
This whole thing is a blatantly obvious attempt to attack and smear President Bush, the RNC, and the current administration. It is a trumped up scandal. Even IF Gannon/Guckert was getting inside information (like that's never happened before) or some sort of special treatment (like that's never happened before either), he has little or not influence, anywhere.

Here's GOPUSA.com's Alexa traffic chart:

Here is it compared to Free Republic and CBS:

Talon News is even worse. It drops from a ranking of around 47,000th that GOPUSA has to around 182,000th.

Here's their traffic with comparisons to Free Republic and CBS:

The links between the DNC and many mainstream news outlets, newscasters, anchors, journalists, and websites is far more blatant yet there's no huge scandal there. And those linked are FAR more influential than little old Gannon/Guckert. Which makes this whole faux scandal all the more obvious for what it is.

157 posted on 02/19/2005 5:52:31 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: KidGlock
After 8 years of the Clintonista's 'Scandal of the Week', The OLD MEDIA is just scandal-starved thus they use forged documents and innuendo to create one!
158 posted on 02/19/2005 5:57:12 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Buckhead

I doubt DU could understand a flow chart.


159 posted on 02/19/2005 8:46:37 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude; cyncooper; beyond the sea
Now we have some defense of Jeff Gannon:

There's A Fourth Estate And A Fifth Estate (Comments From The WH Press Corp About Gannon)

Terry Moran says a decent thing!

160 posted on 02/19/2005 11:01:44 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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