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My Darling, My Blood: Million Dollar Baby
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 18 February 2005 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 02/18/2005 1:10:19 PM PST by mrustow

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To: Irish Rose
Lopez is uggggggggly.
81 posted on 02/18/2005 5:11:42 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: madprof98
Let me guess: You run the box office at the local Cineplex?

LOL -- well, at least you have a sense of humor! I've gotta give the Devil his due.

82 posted on 02/18/2005 5:19:59 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Nachum
Better yet, why not read the short story and then see the movie too.

I plan to buy the book, as soon as I get back from vacation in mid-March.

The movie was true to the written story. It was well told, well cast and well acted.

It was not a "message movie". It was a hard luck story and about love. One of the best I have ever seen. Man- -people are now comparing Clint Eastwood to Leni Reifenstall. This is nothing short of idiotic.

They don't know anything about either. Their empty rhetoric is as bad as a tenured Marxist.

83 posted on 02/18/2005 5:36:21 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow
I've seen all five "best Picture" nominees and Million Dollar Baby is, hands down, the best picture. Not as good as Passion of the Christ though.

Passion of the Christ will still be viewed as a classic in 100 years. Million Dollar Baby will be just another good old movie.

84 posted on 02/18/2005 5:36:34 PM PST by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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To: Cicero
Nicholas Stix is clearly a moral idiot. Clint Eastwood has made a great many movies that are terrific, and profitable as well. "Bridges of Madison County," which he thinks should have won numerous awards, certainly wasn't one of them. It was a commercial success but a moral failure, a piece of dimestore trash.

"Million Dollar Baby" is also trash. It may very well make a lot of money, but morally speaking Clint Eastwood might as well have played the part of an abortionist or a Nazi euthanasia freak.

I look forward to your observations AFTER you see the movie you're bloviating about.

85 posted on 02/18/2005 5:39:03 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Age of Reason

LOL Why is Lopez ugly?


86 posted on 02/18/2005 5:44:02 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: mrustow

That quote from the movie about the Trinity is so trite. Why is it in these movies that no one ever defends the faith effectively? Because that's the point of the movie.

No, I'll not be seeing "Million Dollar Baby."


87 posted on 02/18/2005 5:45:55 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: frogjerk
I did not see the movie.

Should I see the movie that reports to be one thing "A boxing movie" but is about another "pro-euhtenasia", that the LIBs are falling all over themselves for?

It is not pro-euthanasia, and Eastwood has not called it a boxing movie. He calls it a father-daughter story.

Obviously, from the dialog in the article, it is also anti-Catholic as well.

Wrong again. It's not anti-Catholic. Frankie just likes to give everybody a hard time.

Let me just rush out and drop $11 for a ticket and $7 for concessions so Hollywood can keep bombarding me with their left-wing agenda. - sarcasm

There's no leftwing agenda in this movie. If there were, the priest would have been depicted in a negative way, which he isn't. Actually, although he's young, he's something of a throwback. Very no-nonsense. And he's no fool -- he's got Frankie sized up. And nobody's forcing you to spend one thin dime at the concession stand. Most movie theaters have free water fountains.

88 posted on 02/18/2005 5:46:22 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: frogjerk

P.S. In about a month, it'll be out on video, and then you can rent it for only 4 or 5 bucks.


89 posted on 02/18/2005 5:47:24 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Irish Rose

Matt Damon


90 posted on 02/18/2005 5:50:09 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: frogjerk
Another movie hater. Did you even see the movie?

Why is it that if someone doesn't care to see a particular film, doesn't like the latest movies, or doesn't like what Hollywood is putting out these days is considered dumb, prude, or not with it?

No, the problem is when someone condemns a movie he knows nothing about. I almost never go to the movies. I do rent 20 or so videos per year. But I don't rant about movies I've never seen. If you don't care about movies, that's fine. But then don't set up a soapbox to scream about movies you haven't seen.

It seems to me that people that are obsessed with movies (especially in the NYC area) and funding Hollywood really don't have much of a life outside of film.

They love to live in fantasy land. I mean, seeing a film once in a while is good but some people go way overboard. Films and TV are so overrated.

There's more to life than sitting at home and waiting for the latest NetFlix package to arrive.

Your last three paragraphs are beside the point.

91 posted on 02/18/2005 5:54:35 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: frogjerk
Why is it that if someone doesn't care to see a particular film, doesn't like the latest movies, or doesn't like what Hollywood is putting out these days is considered dumb, prude, or not with it?

I don't think that about you. However, arguments about a movie are more productive when both sides have seen the film and know the content first hand. That goes for any debate. If I wanted to tell someone that I dislike Forrest Gump, it wouldn't work if I hadn't seen the film.

It seems to me that people that are obsessed with movies (especially in the NYC area) and funding Hollywood really don't have much of a life outside of film.

I can only speak for myself here. I love movies. They're something I greatly enjoy. It's on par with my love for, say, the Red Sox. In fact, people who are sports fans are typically just as passionate, if not moreso, about sports than movie fans are about movies. You wouldn't put me down for loving the Red Sox, would you?

They love to live in fantasy land

What? A good book is even more of an immersive "fantasy land" than a movie. I find movies to be rather detached, meant for observation. Books are what immerse you. If that is a negative in your mind, target books.

I mean, seeing a film once in a while is good but some people go way overboard.

How many movies you like to see has no bearing on what others should do. I'll agree to some extent that there are people who'll see everything for the sake of it. But still, what is "overboard" for you?

Films and TV are so overrated.

That's your opinion. I might think something is overrated, but I won't start bashing people for it.

There's more to life than sitting at home and waiting for the latest NetFlix package to arrive.

I'm sure any film fan would agree. Netflix allows for one to spend more of their life doing something rather than spending time going to the video store. You get home, and the movie is there already. Time is precious.

92 posted on 02/18/2005 6:16:19 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: mrustow

Well, for myself, I dont rely on anyone elses idea of how good or bad, a movie may be....I might watch a few reviews of it on the TV...may read a few reviews of it in the newspaper...may talk to a few people who have actually seen the movie...but in the end, I make up my own mind, as to whether or not I wish to see a movie...

Those folks who come on here, and give us their own biased opinion of the movie(often it seems, they have not even seen the movie) and rag on what the movie purports to push forth as an agenda, are frankly a waste of time to me(and then of course, some of them try to say they are trying to save us from wasting our money on that movie)....

Because to me, reviews of the movie, other peoples opinion of the movie(I only consider the views of people who have actually seen the movie) are basically just loose guidelines...Perhaps I am saying this badly, but what I mean, is that reviews and other peoples opinions about a movie are given a modicum of consideration...then I decide for myself...I would never let someone else try to decide for me, whether or not I would like to see a movie, or whether or not I am wasting my money to see a movie...I will make my own decisions, and never based on someone elses opinion...

I have to agree with those here, who are saying, that a movie, is just a movie after all...and those movies which may have issues, and themes which are considered to be hot button issues, can and do and should provoke conversation, can and do and should make us examine and re-examine our own biases on the position taken in the movie...

And often I can watch a movie, whose conclusion or ending I may find directly in contradiction to my own beliefs, and yet if the acting and directing and such are well done, I can still appreciate the movie...and Clint Eastwood, Hillary Swank, and especially Morgan Freeman, are three fine actors...

I am definitely against euthanasia...but because Clint Eastwood in his character role, actually commits euthanasia, that is not a reason to keep me from seeing this movie...I am able, as are most adults, to appreciate a fine film, while perhaps disagreeing with the outcome of the film...


93 posted on 02/18/2005 6:18:51 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: cyborg

I am not one whose vision is influenced by celebrity status: I see with my eyes.

People subconsciously desire a mate that they think other people want.

And because of that, their brains fool them into thinking what they see is beautiful.

Which explains that other dog, Farah Faucett Majors, of the 1970s and 80s. I never fell for the hype concerning her, either.


94 posted on 02/18/2005 6:25:47 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

I see your point. You're the first person I've met who doesn't like Farrah.


95 posted on 02/18/2005 6:30:27 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: mrustow

I'm happy to read a movie review of Million Dollar Baby, but I have 1 strict rule about movies.

Avoid Boxing Movies


96 posted on 02/18/2005 6:42:36 PM PST by YaYa123 (@OK 2 rules: Avoid Racing Movies too.com)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Was Dirty Harry a pro-shoot-people-in-the-head-with-a-44-magnum movie?

Yes, of course it was. And, it partly succeeded for exactly that reason. The audience bought the idea that sometimes justice must be swift and deadly. Agree or disagree, that was the subtext, and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if some who had initially disagreed were persuaded to some extent to change their minds based on the movie. Ideas have consequences, art has consequences, the popular culture has consequences. The left has always understood that better than the right.


97 posted on 02/18/2005 6:46:33 PM PST by walden
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
movie hater

It appears you have a habit of tossing out the label 'hater' as casually (and inappropriately) as the libs do.

Show me where I do. I reckon, this is the first thread where I ever did. And I did so, because it's fit and proper. And all you can do is come up with that tired old line? Take some Geritol, or a shot of something. It could only help!

98 posted on 02/18/2005 6:46:49 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Deb

There's a difference between a movie that has characters going on about the benefits of euthenasia and this movie, which is not ABOUT euthenasia. Go rent WHOSE LIFE IS IT, ANYWAY? Now there's a movie 100% about euthenasia. This movie isn't.


99 posted on 02/18/2005 6:46:58 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: Darkwolf377

The prune-face crowd here can't stand to even hear about something they don't agree with.


100 posted on 02/18/2005 6:48:10 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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