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What the H*** is CNN Doing? (Vanity)
Self ^ | Feb 17, 2005 | Self

Posted on 02/17/2005 5:30:25 PM PST by Edward Watson

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To: Edward Watson
One thing Islamic terrorists are is most of them are incredibly stupid

So stupid that they were able to pull off flying two planes into the world trade center towers and one into the pentagon.

I'm usually the last to defend CNN, but the truth is many terrorists are highly educated individuals. By being in a sleeper cell for a number of years, they would have learned how to do this anyway. All CNN did was to expose a flaw in our security so that it could be fixed before it was exploited.

21 posted on 02/17/2005 5:45:38 PM PST by chronotrigger ("Scotty, pull up your pants and get off the bridge. We have a bathroom for that.")
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To: cripplecreek

Not sure, I have not read anything about it.


22 posted on 02/17/2005 5:46:11 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Edward Watson

CNN is working for Jim Moran, D-VA, who is sponsoring a bill to ban the sale of this gun.


23 posted on 02/17/2005 5:46:16 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Edward Watson

There is no reason to turn oneself inside out over it: shooting at and hitting a rapidly moving target (i.e. airplane) from a respectable distance is a non-trivial exercise and would take an atrocious amount of practice. In WWII and earlier multiple machine guns were used for the purpose, with the success rate (hits per rounds expended) being abominably low. And they had an advantage of using tracer rounds and correcting their aim in the process.


24 posted on 02/17/2005 5:48:00 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Edward Watson
Wringing your hands like some distraught female isn't going to solve anything.. any more than watching the communist news network will lead you to the truth.

None of that is a secret, even if you did just find out about it.
Pumping a .50 cal round through the door of an airplane isn't a big deal. Besides, don't you think that with all the home grown nut jobs running loose that at least one of them has actually shot at airplanes, and have yet to hit one much less bring it down.
25 posted on 02/17/2005 5:49:17 PM PST by Tweaker
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Apparently the guy is a science teacher and he was teaching the students about reaction rates. One of the kids went home and blew something up and filmed it of course.


26 posted on 02/17/2005 5:51:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (The crippled stool is the cadillac of poopin stools.)
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To: GSlob

In World War II I believe the figure was 8,000 German 88 Anti-aircraft rounds fired(mind you, these are big shells that airburst so you don't need a direct hit) for each Allied Bomber shot down.

The threat from terrorists shooting 50 calibers at airborne aircraft is for all intents and purposes, non-existent.


27 posted on 02/17/2005 5:51:58 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Edward Watson

I don't "need" one. I don't want one. But now the're going to make me go out and get one!


28 posted on 02/17/2005 5:52:25 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Edward Watson

I don't "need" one. I don't want one. But now the're going to make me go out and get one!


29 posted on 02/17/2005 5:52:55 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: UCANSEE2
Ducks have caused more crashes than .50 armor piercing bullets.

A few years ago we had an airplane hit a flock of geese. One of them hit just below the Captain's window, dislodging the windshield wiper. The windshield wiper flew into the propeller, which sent it lenghwise through the fuselage and into the thigh of the passenger seated in seat 2D. The NTSB narrative follows:

On November 8, 2000, at 1800 central standard time, a SAAB-340-B, N402XJ, operated by Mesaba Aviation, Inc., was substantially damaged when the airplane impacted a flock of geese during an approach for landing. The windshield wiper was torn from the airplane. The left composite propeller exhibited impact marks and chordwise scratching on the face of a propeller blade. Metal fragments punctured the left side of the fuselage and one of the fragments hit a passenger in the leg. The airplane landed without incident. The passenger was taken to a local hospital for medical treatment for minor injuries. The pilot, copilot, flight attendant, and the remaining 21 passengers were not injured. The 14 CFR Part 121 Mesaba flight 2831 had departed Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport (MSP), Minneapolis, Minnesota, and landed at the Aberdeen Regional Airport (ABR), Aberdeen, South Dakota. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and an instrument flight plan was filed.

The Captain reported the airplane was on the ABR ILS Rwy 31 approach at 600 feet above ground level when the airplane impacted a flock of snow geese. The Captain reported he decided to continue the approach for landing. Once on the ground the flight attendant informed the Captain there was a hole in the side of the airplane and that a passenger was injured. The Captain reported a doctor on board the airplane removed a piece of metal from the passenger's leg and administered first aid prior to the ambulance arriving.

The Captain reported, "When we looked at aircraft 402 it was pretty messed up. There were geese in both intakes, three holes in the side, prop blades with pieces missing out of them, a side window busted, both front windows hit and one wiper gone, the other broke off to the side, one gear was hit and one flap."

Anyway apparently the passenger's only request was that he be allowed to keep the windshield wiper as a souvenir.

30 posted on 02/17/2005 5:54:19 PM PST by xjcsa (She died of loneliness...loneliness and rabies...)
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To: Edward Watson
In about 1962 I saw a CBS Evening News piece by two "investigative reporters" who bought a Finnish 20 mm Solothurn anti-tank gun and fired it at a boulder out in the desert somewhere, blowing up the boulder. They then wailed about how easy it was to get such powerful weapons, and how they could be used to destroy almost anything! That was before the Gun Control act of 1968, and it was still legal to buy anti-tank guns in some states.

My point is that the leftist loonies/liars/morons haven't changed a bit -even in their methods - in 40+ years.

I don't think anyone of consequence believes anything CNN says anymore.

31 posted on 02/17/2005 5:54:51 PM PST by DesertWalker
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To: UCANSEE2

>>Unless you hit a critical component, it is very unlikely >>it would cause the airliner to crash.
>>You could be on the plane, and fire bullets all around >>you, and not cause the plane to crash.

!!!WRONG!!! DEPENDS ON THE ALTITUDE OF THE AIRCRAFT.

Physics 101: the higher the altitude, the lower the
atmospheric pressure. That is why aircraft cabins are
PRESSURIZED. A typical 737 flies at 30,000+ ft, you need
oxygen masks at 15,000 ft. If the fuselage is punctured
while pressurized at altitude, everybody inside the cabin
will be killed either by lack of oxygen, or most likely,
by being extruded through the decompression hole.

Same reason shaving cream shoots out of a can, it's
pressurized....


32 posted on 02/17/2005 5:57:16 PM PST by democratslayer (Aircraft decompression)
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To: xjcsa

Any crash (airplane) you walk away from is a good one.

BTW. Know what the propeller is for on an airplane?


33 posted on 02/17/2005 5:57:24 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The truth is like sex, it is a highly personal thing.)
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To: cripplecreek
Wasn't a teacher arrested the other day for teaching kids how to blow things up?

I went to military school. It was a required-pass subject.

34 posted on 02/17/2005 5:59:54 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: democratslayer

WRONG. Very strong word.

If the airliner was at FL30 and the cabin depressurized, the passengers might die, the pilot would probably get his mask on and land the plane safely. So, a crash is not certain.

Anyone that could hit an airliner at 30,000 feet with a .50, again, deserves a MARKSMANSHIP AWARD.


35 posted on 02/17/2005 6:00:37 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The truth is like sex, it is a highly personal thing.)
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To: Strategerist
Well, if the perp positions oneself directly under the line of approach to the plane landing at airport, his aiming would admittedly become easier. Still, even in such a case the perp (in single shot rifle mode) would need real time target distance and velocity data with instant recalculation regarding his projectile's time of flight. Since the perp would not enjoy the luxury of repeated practice to work it out, his chances of hitting his target on the first attempt would be extremely low, unless he gets a machine gun with a lot of tracer ammo.
36 posted on 02/17/2005 6:01:05 PM PST by GSlob
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To: democratslayer
Face it, these people are idiots who can't even solve a basic linear equation.

And apparently can't figure out that a few keystrokes on the internet could provide them with valuable information.

37 posted on 02/17/2005 6:02:00 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The truth is like sex, it is a highly personal thing.)
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To: UCANSEE2
BTW. Know what the propeller is for on an airplane?

OK I'll bite....what's it for?

38 posted on 02/17/2005 6:02:13 PM PST by xjcsa (She died of loneliness...loneliness and rabies...)
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To: humblegunner

In shop class, one of my fellow students filled a balloon with acetylene, and then hit it with the flame from the torch.

It blowed up REAL GOOD!!!


39 posted on 02/17/2005 6:03:45 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The truth is like sex, it is a highly personal thing.)
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To: Tweaker

I've got a buddy that was a commercial airline pilot. I asked him once if anyone ever shoots at them, and he told me that every now and then they find a bullet hole in one of them. If it were flying low enough, a .308 would be pretty easy to shoot into one. Of course, you couldn't actually bring the jet down with it, unless you were "lucky" and caught the pilot in the head or something.


40 posted on 02/17/2005 6:04:35 PM PST by Hardastarboard
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