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A Zealous Prosecutor of Drug Criminals Becomes One Himself
New York Times ^
| February 14, 2005
| RALPH BLUMENTHAL
Posted on 02/16/2005 10:37:03 AM PST by Scenic Sounds
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To: ClintonBeGone
What makes one insane is advocating for legalization of drugs. Dissidents were considered 'insane' during the Brezhnev-era Soviet Union, and routinely carted off to mental hospitals for 'treatment'. IIRC, the father of the Soviet H-bomb Andrei Sakharov was given such 'treatment' for daring to criticize the socialist order.
If anything, it's the act of doing the same thing over and over (communism *or* drug prohibition) and expecting different results ("from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs" *or* the ephemeral "Drug-Free America") that truly is insane - a trait that Drug Warriors like yourself who claim to be conservative and hard-core Communists have in common.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:29:26 AM PST
by
bassmaner
(Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
To: bassmaner; ClintonBeGone
Yeah, Mr. Drug Warrior, what results have you to show for the billions and billions spent on the War on Drugs? How are we any better off than before we spent those billions?
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:32:38 AM PST
by
thoughtomator
(If Islam is a religion, so is Liberal!)
To: ClintonBeGone
What would be healthier for America?
a) A government with as small a slice of GDP as before the New Deal (but drug laws would have to go to the states)
b) A DEA narc on every block comittee and enough snitches, no knock raids, and property siezures to actually win the Drug War.
Which America would you rather have?
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:35:54 AM PST
by
eno_
(Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
To: thoughtomator
Beats me. From another article:
And state troopers alleged that Mr. Roach offered them Rolex watches and other incentives to emphasize money seizures in drug cases. State law allows such funds to be split between the law enforcement agency and prosecuting attorney's office.
At the time of his arrest, authorities said, Mr. Roach alone controlled bank accounts with at least a half-million dollars in seized drug money.
None of the federal charges against Mr. Roach involved financial misconduct. It is still possible that Mr. Roach could face state charges, though no decision is expected until after Gov. Rick Perry appoints a successor.
Federal and state prosecutors declined to discuss the specifics of their investigation, including how Mr. Roach began using methamphetamine or how he got it.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:37:06 AM PST
by
Wolfie
To: Wolfie
From this article:
Government officials said they had also been investigating him for pornography and weapons possession - two guns were in his briefcase when he was arrested on Jan. 11, and 35 others were found in his home and office, along with stashes of drugs. Officials also were looking into his handling of millions of dollars in cash confiscated from drug traffickers along the Interstate 40 corridor that skirts the sparsely populated counties of Gray, Wheeler, Roberts, Hemphill and Lipscomb, where only 33,500 people live, fewer than 8 per square mile.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:40:07 AM PST
by
Scenic Sounds
(Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
To: Bones75
It's NOT justice.. it IS fascism, but that's all the WOD is anyway. A fascist scam designed to make criminals and corrupt officials fabulously wealthy and powerful at the expense of sick addicts.Although I would quibble at 'designed', and point out that society at large pays half the freight, at least - addicts are not victims - your post pretty much summarizes the actual state of affairs.
Moneyed interests massage the laws to protect the existing cash flow - that's a fundamental truth of politics. Laws affecting the WOD are no exception to this rule.
Mao would call it, "Socialism with American characteristics." ;^)
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:41:53 AM PST
by
headsonpikes
(Spirit of '76 bttt!)
To: Scenic Sounds
He was ill, he said; drug addiction was an illness, "but there's no defense for taking an illegal substance to treat mental illness." "Who in their right mind would inject themselves in front of an employee?" he said. So, what do you think his defense is going to be ;o)
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:44:11 AM PST
by
maine-iac7
(...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - LINCOLN)
To: eno_
Which America would you rather have?
I would rather have a drug free america.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:44:33 AM PST
by
ClintonBeGone
(In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
To: ClintonBeGone
I would rather have a drug free america. I'll drink to that!
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:46:13 AM PST
by
Wolfie
To: Scenic Sounds; ClintonBeGone
. . . clapped into handcuffs by F.B.I. agents in the Gray County courthouse . . .
Punishing corruption by government officials is not at all an indictment of our system, but rather proof that it works.
To: ClintonBeGone
a) A government with as small a slice of GDP as before the New Deal (but drug laws would have to go to the states) b) A DEA narc on every block comittee and enough snitches, no knock raids, and property siezures to actually win the Drug War.
Which America would you rather have?
I would rather have a drug free america.
I'd rather have the liberty our Founders died for.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:48:08 AM PST
by
Know your rights
(The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
To: ClintonBeGone
What makes one insane is advocating for legalization of drugs. Abusing prescription drugs is a-o-k, though, right?
To: Scenic Sounds
Sounds more likely that he was eliminating competition.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:49:11 AM PST
by
fella
To: maine-iac7
So, what do you think his defense is going to be ;o)Well, Mr. Roach doesn't need a legal defense anymore. From the article:
Last Tuesday, in a deal with the United States attorney's office, Mr. Roach pleaded guilty to possessing a firearm while using illegal drugs, a charge that could send him to prison for up to 10 years and carry a fine of $250,000 when he is sentenced in coming months. Three other drug charges were dropped. He also resigned the office to which he had just been elected to a second four-year term.
As for an explanation, I think Mr. Roach would probably acknowledge that he was developing a problem with drugs and that it was threatening to interfere with his work.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:49:38 AM PST
by
Scenic Sounds
(Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
To: ClintonBeGone
drug dealers who try to get kids hooked on drugs. Why is it that Drug Warriors who claim to be conservatives never tire of the "it's for the children" argument?
To: ClintonBeGone
What makes one insane is advocating for legalization of drugs.Were those who advocated an end to Prohibition of the drug alcohol also insane?
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:50:40 AM PST
by
Know your rights
(The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
To: Hemingway's Ghost
Why is it that Drug Warriors who claim to be conservatives never tire of the "it's for the children" argument?They've confused conservatism with hating liberals; the former, but not the latter, is inconsistent with embracing liberal principles.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:52:36 AM PST
by
Know your rights
(The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
To: ClintonBeGone
"I would rather have a drug free america."
No prozac? No viagra? No Sominex? No Sudafed? No Vicodin?
Is that what you mean? or an America free of the particular drugs you happen not to like?
Bones
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:53:35 AM PST
by
Bones75
To: ClintonBeGone
a country free of drugs, drugs users, drug pushers and legalization advocates. That is freedom.Wrong. Consult a dictionary.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:54:31 AM PST
by
Know your rights
(The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
To: Hemingway's Ghost
Abusing prescription drugs is a-o-k, though, right?
Is it? Not in my book. I've been one of the few voices on the Rush Limbaugh threads calling for him to stand and accept punishment for whatever drug related crime he may have committed.
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posted on
02/16/2005 11:55:35 AM PST
by
ClintonBeGone
(In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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