Boeing Unveils 777-200LR Worldliner -- Longest Range Commercial Jetliner

Boeing.com ^ | Feb. 15, 2005 | Staff

[Paleo Conservative]

Correction, that should be eight TF-33 engines.

Boeing B-52 Stratofortress

[Paleo Conservative]

Boeing only sells the planes to the customer, and the customer has the resposioblity to seek a engine suppler for their planes. So the airplane contract is separate from the engine manufacture contract.

But Boeing made a contract with GE making GE the sole provider of engines for the 777-200LR and 777-300ER.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

In the early days of the 747 - 100 , and from the start of the 747, they had big problems with the P&W JT9D engines.
The JT9D was a NEW engine design back in 1968. Back in those early days of the 747, thats all they had for the 747, JT9D P&W engines.

[Bring Back Old Sparky]

Wonderful idea, however impractical. Where would they dispose of all of those quart cans of Cox fuel? Is there enough castor oil and nitro in this world to get a 777 off the ground?

[ExtremeUnction]

I hate Boeing jets from a passenger's stand point).

The airlines have always known that Boeing makes Chevy's. But very reliable Chevy's. And always relativity inexpensive vs competitors. I think that this plane will be competitive. There's just too much aero engineering knowledge and science in Seattle. We will beat the Europeans. Period.

[Paleo Conservative]

In the early days of the 747 - 100 , and from the start of the 747, they had big problems with the P&W JT9D engines. The JT9D was a NEW engine design back in 1968. Back in those early days of the 747, thats all they had for the 747, JT9D P&W engines.

Here's a picture of the PW JT9D engine being test flown on a B-52H.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Thank you, yes, I just read about that, increased ETOPS.
That is just impressive, this plane can even take off and get to cruising altitude even on one engine.

[COEXERJ145]

GE , ROLLS ROYCE, and P & W

Not on the 777-200LR and 777-300ER. Those only use the General Electric GE-90 series of engine.

[COEXERJ145]

The old joke when the 767 and A300/310 were given ETOPS clearance was that ETOPS stood for "Engines Turning Or Passengers Swimming". Of course there has never been an accident because a twin engine airliner lost both its engines while over the ocean for anything other than fuel starvation.

[tracer]

The "777" indeed.

The Saudis are about to launch the Boeing "666"....

[nightdriver]

"So the airplane contract is separate from the engine manufacture contract."

That is what Boeing said.

[FreeManWhoCan]

Does anyone know the range of the AB 380? I like the Boeing Freighter thats coming up too. I'm in the AOG business and when trying to ship an engine to some other part of the world I would love to have that freighter as an option.

[longshadow]

It will be rated to fly up to 207 minutes on one engine under Extended Twin OPerationS rules (ETOPS).

You can't fool us; we know what ETOPS really stands for: "Engines Turn, Or Passengers Swim"

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Your right,

Let's see ? Europe's economies are in a deep recession ( and signs that they are and will be going deeper into recession, even a depression ) % 10 unemployment, and signs that is will just get worse.
How much longer do you see and think they ( the EU ) will keep stuffing money down this black hole of a project ( the A - 380 ) with the EU's economies going down hill ?
Just wait until the ( FLIGHT TEST ) program gets in full swing, and they find out that the A - 380 does not live up to it's PERFORMANCE HYPE, and those airlines find out that they got fooled into the INFLATED HYPE of the A - 380s performance.
Yes, those airlines just jumped on the BAND WAGON of having prestige and status of buying that white elephant that the A - 380 is, and will have to find some way to back out of their contracts with Airbus after they get disappointed about the airplanes performance numbers.
The 777 and the 747 are PROVEN designs, and dependable.
The new 747 Advanced will have a greater performance record and lighter weight, and MTOW.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Maybe your right,, I was just going by what the video I have on the 777 said,,,, sorry if I mis quoted.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Well,, that's what I heard.

[Central Scrutiniser]

Glad to see that EVA is getting them, they are great, I am flying them next Tuesday.

Now, we just gotta get some LAX-BKK non stops!

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I see ,,,,
Sorry, I have not read up to much on the new 777 LR , mostly the 747.
I have read some on the older 777, and have a video of it.

[Central Scrutiniser]

Yeah, but the word is that they may shut down Midway Island's airport. It serves as an emergency landing base for twin engine ETOPS planes. Continental had to land a 777 there last year.

I love the 777, flew one on EgyptAir JFK-Cairo, and Continental Houston to Tokyo.

[supercat]

Even then the first planes were only allowed to operate a maximum of 120 minutes of ETOPS.

How far do transcontinental flights get from the nearest airport?