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Toll to drive downtown? (San Francisco)
San Francisco Examiner ^ | 2/15/05 | Justin Nyberg

Posted on 02/15/2005 2:06:00 PM PST by Alissa

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As a former resident of San Francisco who worked in the congested area but lived in the non-congested area, my question is just where will these toll booths be located?
1 posted on 02/15/2005 2:06:00 PM PST by Alissa
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To: Alissa

Well somebody has to pay for all those gay weddings.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 2:06:52 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Alissa

even worse.....no toll booths but if caught without a pass then what, the cops ticket you......causing more congestion? Hell, I think more people should take BART and such but this is not the way to do it......reward those that exhibit good behavior, don't punish anyone for simply driving on a street.......more BS from "I can't think of any sane solutions" liberals.......


3 posted on 02/15/2005 2:09:22 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Alissa

I never go into SF anyway. It's good with me:-)


5 posted on 02/15/2005 2:10:57 PM PST by Drango (tag line under repair)
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To: Alissa

See this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1343740/posts

Once they get the GPS receiver in your car, there'll be able to send you a bill in the mail after you visit the gas station every couple weeks.


6 posted on 02/15/2005 2:11:12 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: dfwgator

San Freakcisco, California's largest single city-wide embarassment, continues its socialist/leftist death spiral. Continuing to drive away businesses, they continue their TAXATION of everything they can. It is the typical liberal Midas Touch, the city continues not only the elevation of its image as a law-breaking, activist, liberal trash-pit. The world's largest outdoor insane asylum, will continue downward with its lawless, activist socialist government at the helm.


7 posted on 02/15/2005 2:12:44 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Alissa

I refuse to drive in San Francisco. Between BART, busses, and the trollies, I got around the city just fine.


8 posted on 02/15/2005 2:13:27 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: So Cal Rocket

I think tis past time this nation had itself another tea party....


9 posted on 02/15/2005 2:13:35 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Alissa

No toll booths, they use camerass to read license plates and essentially send you the bill. London has a similar system and they have discussed using it in NYC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1841315.stm


10 posted on 02/15/2005 2:14:12 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Alissa

No toll booths, they use camerass to read license plates and essentially send you the bill. London has a similar system and they have discussed using it in NYC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1841315.stm

http://www.sfexaminer.com/articles/2005/02/15/news/20050215_ne02_london.txt
CITIES WITH TOLL ZONES
Cities with congestion charging zones:

Trondheim, Norway (pop. 154,351)
Bergen, Norway (pop. 211,200)
Rome, Italy (pop. 2.5 million)
Durham, England (pop. 493,470)
London, England (pop. 7.2 million)
Singapore (pop. 4.2 million)


11 posted on 02/15/2005 2:17:11 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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We've driven in London once. Never again.


12 posted on 02/15/2005 2:19:14 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Alissa

,,, it will probably be done by readers cut into roads within designated toll zones starting on the fringes of the CBD. They'll spray your car with microdots and a satellite will read them as you enter and exit the zones. Technology used in Singapore employs reading devices on overhead beams that read cards inserted into devices in the windshields of vehicles. Users top up their cards with credits and are charged on a composite basis of roads used and peak or off peak times deducts credits on a central computer. That's pretty much old technology now, but it works well.


13 posted on 02/15/2005 2:19:26 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: Alissa

The homeless begging at stop lights downtown is tax enough.


14 posted on 02/15/2005 2:21:34 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: EagleUSA

haha.........all you said is so true......but I still love to visit and party there........just couldn't live there or own my own business there.....I'll show you all the hot spots without liberal activist gay lovers.....


15 posted on 02/15/2005 2:24:30 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Alissa
Toll to drive into downtown SF? Whatever...

I'd be more impressed if they'd set up a vaccination center to protect unwitting travellers going into SF.

16 posted on 02/15/2005 2:26:21 PM PST by AngryJawa (230 Grains of Happy)
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To: Alissa; dfwgator; NorCalRepub; Baynative; Drango; So Cal Rocket; EagleUSA; SandyInSeattle; ...
"The key issue here is if we can kill three birds with one stone -- relieve congestion, clean up the air, and give money to Muni

Ah, the "trifecta" of the Socialist-Left: simultaneously dis-empower the people (restrict freedom of mobility and access), advance a false and disingenuous agenda to disguise true motives ("it's for the environment", "it's for the children", "it's for the homeless", etc.), and rape people of their earnings to line the pockets of the greedy politburo (under the guise of providing social services).

17 posted on 02/15/2005 2:28:55 PM PST by SpyGuy (Liberalism is slow societal suicide. And screw political correctness: Islam is the Religion of Death)
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To: Alissa

What happens in San Franciso should stay in San Franciso..


18 posted on 02/15/2005 2:29:12 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army
San Francisco would become the first city in the nation to charge drivers just for driving in its chronically congested downtown under a sure-to-be controversial proposal being aired today.

Supervisor Jake McGoldrick, chair of the San Francisco Transportation Authority, will ask the agency to study a downtown toll zone -- whereby drivers would need to purchase a daily pass to drive in The City's most congested streets -- as a potential solution to the Municipal Transportation Agency's woeful budget problems.

"The key issue here is if we can kill three birds with one stone -- relieve congestion, clean up the air, and give money to Muni -- we would have hit a home run," McGoldrick said.

I'm thinking that a municipal abattoir for registered Democrats and members of the Socialist, Communist, and Green Parties would be much more efficient at relieving congestion and cleaning the air. Plus, with the swag taken from the victims, err, I mean participants, the program would pay for itself and then some...

19 posted on 02/15/2005 2:29:59 PM PST by HenryLeeII (Democrats have helped kill more Americans than the Soviets and Nazis combined!)
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To: Alissa
San Francisco... en route to Ecotopia
20 posted on 02/15/2005 2:30:08 PM PST by Alia
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