Gays Debate Radical Steps to Curb Unsafe Sex

New York Times ^ | 2/14/05 | Andrew Jacobs

[unlearner]

"Although gay advocates and health care workers are just beginning to talk about how this might be done, it could involve showing up at places where impromptu sex parties happen and confronting the participants. Or it might mean infiltrating Web sites that promote gay hookups and thwarting liaisons involving crystal meth."

"Other ideas include collaborating with health officials in tracking down the partners of those newly infected with H.I.V. At the very least, these advocates say, gay men must start taking responsibility for their own, before a resurgent epidemic draws government officials who could use even more aggressive tactics. "

How about the tactic of reversing the Supreme Court Decision to (by legislating from the bench) legalize sodomy?

"He and others said it would be more effective to try to identify the underlying causes of drug abuse and self-destructive behavior, including the difficulty of living in a society that rejects committed gay relationships while condemning homosexuals for having sex outside those relationships. Gay men, he said, are using methamphetamine as an antidepressant."

And, like we all knew would happen, they are already trying to blame society for this new strain of AIDS instead of realizing that it is caused by sodomy.

Some older homosexual activists entered into long term relationships due to homosexuality being illegal. They do not even realize that the fight to undo laws prohibiting sodomy has resulted in more and more promiscuity. The right to marry is not going to change that. Once they have demolished this taboo completely, these men (or their successors) will seek out more thrills by finding whatever taboos are left - pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality, etc. For those who have already crossed the line into reprobation, the homosexuals are just pawns in a larger struggle.

[gidget7]

Yes it is. And I notice too hpw they openly admit to having 100's of partners in a 3 MONTH PERIOD!! As this articles implies, they expect we are suppose to just support this.

Homosexuals DO NOT HAVE COMMITTED RELATIONSHIPS!

Even when they "marry" they are openly admitting they have no intention of being "with" only that one person.

[teenyelliott]

Gay or straight, if you are living the life of meth and anal sex, you might want to become familiar with the phrase natural selection.

[JohnBovenmyer]

For those infected who are legally proven to so misbehave I suggest a literary solution, The Scarlet Letter. Tattoo A where only those with a need to know (e.g. health care workers and potential unsafe sex victims) can legally see it. It can't legally cause discrimination - beyond the intended sexual discrimination - because it's illegal (indecent exposure) for potential discriminators to view it.

[Darkwolf377]

With all due respect, I don't see that many straight relationships lasting that long, either. Not taking the opposite side from you, merely pointing out that straights sure aren't setting many records for prolonged relationships.

[gidget7]

I'm surprised this person didn't say "IT'S BUSH'S FAULT" as well. Sheesh.


You beat me to it! I still don't get why they keep relating the problem to meth use. What has that got to do with getting AIDS? Is he trying to say it makes gays MORE uninhibited?? Not possible.

[Kozak]

Gay men, he said, are using methamphetamine as an antidepressant.

Oh horse sh#t. They are using it as a stimulant to increase their already hypersexual behavior. One damn excuse after another. Maybe at some point the psychiatrists will finally admit they were wrong in removing homosexuality from the diagnostic manual as an illness, something they did out of political correctness.

[gidget7]

No, I agree with you on that. However, unless one is so called bi-sexual, or shares needles with someone who is, they aren't spreading aids.

It is immoral, but heterosexuals are not saying that their promiscuity is inherent.

[Callahan]

I find it interesting that the "society forced me to turn into a male slut to dull the pain" exscuse is being employed by gays who live in the areas (Frisco, Manhattan) where homosexuality is most accepted. By this logic, gays in Tulsa should be even bigger whores. However, I suspect the opposite is true.

[Darkwolf377]

We're not? Uh, I mean, they're not? ;) "I couldn't help myself" "It just HAPPENED" "It didn't mean anything, it was JUST sex" "Men are by their nature non-monogomous."

I think everyone will flee to any lie just to cover himself when he violates his committment. Trust me, I'm a man--most men DO think it's out of their hands, or rather, they push that as an excuse, ready to toss it out if they feel like stepping out.

[gidget7]

so true. I read one of the articles here by a psychiatrist who gave evidence, and research to back up his opinion that it is a compulsion, ,ush like OCD. WHich is a mental disorder

[Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...]

Pretty hard to argue with anyone about the perverseness of homosexuality when the sick minds of the participants are being fed a line by the educated elite psychologists that 'it's perfectly normal'. Sad that it won't be figured out until AIDS is in full-blown mode and death at the door that it's not doing anybody a favour to tell them they are normal when they are not.

[gidget7]

Trust me, I'm a man--most men DO think it's out of their hands, or rather, they push that as an excuse, ready to toss it out if they feel like stepping out.

Oh I know Darkwolf, but seriously, they don't really believe it do they? I mean "born that way" just doesn't cut it for promiscuous behavior! of Any kind!

[Walkingfeather]

One must remember the homosexual community is one of the most highly educated and wealthiest demographic groups. This is not about giving them more education, Men are the gas pedal in a sexual relationship females are the brakes. When you have two males involved there is no stopping them. This group is de-evolving back into animals unable to control their sexual drives.

[Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...]

Seems that most of the literature I've looked at shows that anal sex is so dangerous, committed relationships are not really that much different than multiple casual ones in terms of health risks for homosexual men. All you have to do is look at average life spans for homos that die with AIDS and those that die of some other causes and the spread is very small (seem to remember that it is about 2 years).

[rottndog]

This group is de-evolving back into animals unable to control their sexual drives.


De-evolving? Hell man, they are already there.

[gidget7]

Unable?? or is it in fact Unwilling???

[Octar]

Sadly, young fags cannot be fully accepted into the the pervert nation unless they are HIV positive. Thus they seek to become infected. Sick? Let me count the ways.

[thoughtomator]

While many are calling for a renewed commitment to prevention efforts and free condoms, some veterans of the war on AIDS are advocating an entirely new approach to the spread of unsafe sex, much of which is fueled by a surge in methamphetamine abuse. They want to track down those who knowingly engage in risky behavior and try to stop them before they can infect others.

This is what anti-sodomy laws were for in the first place!

[perfect stranger]

It was when doctors started noticing the same faces in the bathouses as those in their waiting rooms that it started to matter.