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Bush Wants $82B More for Iraq, Afghan Costs
AP ^ | February 14, 2005 | AP

Posted on 02/14/2005 10:16:27 AM PST by CitizenHelper

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To: econ_grad; ohioWfan
I am no smarter than you are, but definitely more grounded in reality.

Yeah, you are.

But you're much more a gentleman than I am.

But I'm workin on it Wfan. ;o)

161 posted on 02/15/2005 3:15:23 PM PST by iconoclast (Can anyone direct me to any place in our founding documents where "democracy" is mentioned?)
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To: iconoclast
That's good, cause I like your screenname! I used to be one myself until I became a Presbyterian. :o)

So....... I'm not on your 'ignore list' any more because you couldn't stop calling me names?

162 posted on 02/15/2005 3:19:04 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: ohioWfan
So....... I'm not on your 'ignore list' any more because you couldn't stop calling me names?

I told you I'm tryin. ;o)

163 posted on 02/15/2005 3:24:37 PM PST by iconoclast (Can anyone direct me to any place in our founding documents where "democracy" is mentioned?)
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To: iconoclast

And you're doin' good, iconoclast. ;o)


164 posted on 02/15/2005 3:27:07 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: econ_grad

"Are you joking? We have been spreading democracy and freeing Iraq from a brutal dictatorship. Haven't you heard? It is as much for Iraq as it is for you and me. Iraq better pay off this war debt. Trust me, if they had to pay us for their security that we are now providing and had to satisfy the international bond holders, the insurgency would be long gone. They have over 5 trillion of oil reserve. They don't deserve a penny of US taxdollars."

First and foremost, we went into Iraq to protect American citizens at home. Do the Iraqi's benefit? Yes, but we did not do that just for them.

Your idea that if we just made them pay, then the insurgency would be gone is correct, but here is what you have not thought about. Iraqis are not trained to defend themselves. That means that the insurgency would have taken over the country and we would be in the same position that we were in with Saddam in power. The reason that we are spreading Democracy is to attempt to give Iraq a better future. In the process, yes we have lost a lot of troops, but if we were not spreading Democracy, we also would not still be there training their forces.

You are absolutely correct in your depiction of the outcome of making them pay, except all the wrong people would be in charge and the Iraqis would have no way to change it. We would have had to go back in and it would have cost us even more in the future than it has now.


165 posted on 02/15/2005 3:30:32 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Major_Risktaker

"Working Late! Thanks For The Fix!"

I have been known to work late also. Watch my math for me just in case.


166 posted on 02/15/2005 3:38:13 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: ohioWfan
Or are you the kind that plays baseball in Pittsburgh?

I did not put much thought into my screen name. I came up with Joe the Pirate in a moment of goofiness.

By the way, I am a Dodgers fan. Sigh...

167 posted on 02/15/2005 3:40:23 PM PST by JoethePirate
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To: JoethePirate

Hey..........better than being an Indians fan.


168 posted on 02/15/2005 3:48:33 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: econ_grad
Why don't we just buy Afghanstan and turn it into our 51st state?

We already have a 51st state. ;o)

170 posted on 02/16/2005 5:16:54 AM PST by iconoclast (Can anyone direct me to any place in our founding documents where "democracy" is mentioned?)
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To: ohioWfan

i'm not a troll, just a concerned citizen. the cost of this war is spiraling out of control, where do they find this money?


171 posted on 02/16/2005 10:34:26 AM PST by ny demimonde
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To: ohioWfan

If you are passing out Kool-Aid, I'll pass.


172 posted on 02/16/2005 10:53:15 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: ny demimonde

Who gave you the idea that the 'oil was supposed to pay for this venture?'


173 posted on 02/16/2005 12:05:04 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: nonliberal; ShadowDancer
My, my, now aren't you original?

I'm just drawn to you and your obviously searing intellect because your post is so deep and thought provoking. How long did it take you to come up with the concept of "Kool-Aid?" Weeks?? Months?? Years??

Well........gotta go. I have a funny feeling that nothing worthwhile is going to be forthcoming from your fertile mind.......

btw.......you should get together with ShadowDancer. He functions at pretty much the same level as you do.........

174 posted on 02/16/2005 12:11:03 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: ohioWfan

Okay, thanks for sharing.


175 posted on 02/16/2005 12:13:08 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: ShadowDancer
That's OK. I thought you'd like to meet someone almost as clever as you are..............not quite though.

The Stepford Wife thing is exceptionally amusing. I marveled for hours at how cute it was........and how very smart you must be to have come up with it.

176 posted on 02/16/2005 12:17:40 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: ohioWfan

You have an awful lot of time on your hands, don't you?


177 posted on 02/16/2005 12:19:43 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: ohioWfan
How does it feel to be a sheep? Your constant bleating about the virtues of the Bush Administration ignores its horrible flaws.

I hope that I never become an unthinking robot like you have turned out to be.

178 posted on 02/16/2005 3:28:42 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: ShadowDancer
LOL! No actually I have two jobs and four kids.

I just enjoy ribbing people who say really dumb things to me. :o)

179 posted on 02/16/2005 5:19:16 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: nonliberal
You, sir, are completely ignorant.

I've probably thought more deeply in the past hour than you have in your entire lifetime.

(A fact which was proven by your exceedingly stupid and shallow "Kool-aid" post........although 'sheep' and 'robot' are just as dumb).

Might I suggest that you begin thinking for yourself, as I do, so you don't say such silly things about things you know nothing about. OK?

Now, I have actually discussed the issue on this thread with other adults here, so unless you have something intelligent to say to me regarding the issue itself, why don't you find someone more your level to play with (i.e. lower)?

180 posted on 02/16/2005 5:27:48 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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