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Breaking the Al-Qaeda code
Timesonline (UK) ^ | 2/13/2005 | Christina Lamb

Posted on 02/12/2005 7:42:35 PM PST by 1066AD

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To: ccmay; doug from upland; Alamo-Girl
Finally, a plantiff's attorney for whom we can cheer.

Maybe, maybe not. I suspect these guys will be suing the hell out of the FAA and other government agencies, as well as the airlines

I think that ccmay might be right and Motley Rice is either building a shopping list of organizations to sue or information for leverage.

Lawyers have been big source of Edwards' campaign funds - USAToday - 7/6/2004
[snip] The Ness, Motley law firm gave $250,600 to Edwards. The firm — now called Motley, Rice — was heavily involved in litigation against tobacco companies that led to a $246 billion settlement with the states. The firm also let Edwards use its business jet. [/snip]

Mary Schiavo @ Motley Rice LLC
Throughout her distinguished career in law and public service, Mary Schiavo has held corporations, institutions and the government fully accountable for their obligation to protect the safety and security of the traveling public. She continues that mission at Motley Rice LLC as a member and leader of the aviation team.

From 1990 to 1996, Schiavo served as the Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Transportation. Under her direction, Schiavo and her staff secured more than 1,000 criminal convictions and uncovered billions in waste and abuse at the U.S.D.O.T. Since leaving the Transportation Department, Schiavo has represented passenger and crew families in every major U.S. air crash, as well as pilots and passengers on private planes. At Motley Rice, she continues to represent clients in all major aviation-related litigation, including family members of the passengers and crew aboard the four planes hijacked on September 11, 2001.[/snip]

Ms. Schiavo is famous for several things including:
[snip] The Los Angeles Airport Commission hired Hubbell in late summer 1994 to help ensure the U.S. Department of Transportation did not stop the city from making use of $58 million in airport funds. It paid Hubbell $24,750. A year ago, amid questions about the arrangement, former DOT inspector general Mary Schiavo found that Hubbell did not solicit the job and appeared to have done little work. She found Hubbell's lobbying consisted largely of one or two five-minute phone calls to the DOT general counsel. Hubbell was recommended to airport officials by the husband of then-Deputy Mayor Mary Leslie, a Hubbell friend and one-time Clinton administration appointee at the Small Business Administration under Erskine B. Bowles. [/snip]
Hubbell Meetings With Riady Draw Probers' Scrutiny - Wash Post 3/23/1997

21 posted on 02/13/2005 9:32:03 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer

This is like watching a steel-cage death match between Hillary and Ted Kennedy. For whom do you root? You want both of them to lose and not be able to crawl out of the cage.


22 posted on 02/13/2005 9:35:43 AM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: Dog

Dog,

I don't think you've posted to this. Thought you might like to see it.


23 posted on 02/13/2005 9:39:56 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
Thanks Cap.

Inside, a series of control panels with flashing lights and whirring hard drives comprise the master computer of the world’s largest free-standing database of intelligence on Islamic terrorism. It could hold the key to dismantling Al-Qaeda.

I would love to tap into that database...I would never get off the computer....:-)

24 posted on 02/13/2005 9:45:34 AM PST by Dog
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To: doug from upland

"Al-Qaeda" itself means the base. Some people have taken it to mean the bases in Afghanistan but it is really "the database" that Osama used to keep track of his converted.

I've always thought that massively integrated databases was the way to bring down the cells of Al-Qaeda and, thereby, eventually the whole network of terrorists, financiers, clerics and sympathesizers.

Why doesn't the FBI, CIA, InterPol etc. have better systems than this private one?


25 posted on 02/13/2005 9:45:40 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: DTA

GoldenChain?


26 posted on 02/13/2005 9:46:23 AM PST by getgoing
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To: Dog

I noticed that they are using Analyst's Notebook. That's what we understood our intel guys were using to track down Sadam.


27 posted on 02/13/2005 9:52:04 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
I think it is in use to hunt Zarqawi.

New information is coming in all the time, particularly on the Madrid-Hamburg nexus

This caught my eye also....seems Hamburg is the main hub for AQ.

28 posted on 02/13/2005 9:56:02 AM PST by Dog
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To: Peach

Ping.


29 posted on 02/13/2005 10:23:39 AM PST by Dog
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To: Dog; upchuck

Thanks for this ping! I had no idea this was going on in Charleston. I've been by the area they are talking about many times and will look at it a little more closely next time we visit.

What a fascinating article.


30 posted on 02/13/2005 10:27:54 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: 1066AD

This attorney may want to check out how a Clinton appointed federal judge granted an award to some 9/11 families against Iraq for being complicit in the 911 attacks.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/05/september11/main520874.shtml

Hundreds of articles linking Saddam and Osama bin Laden. Some of the links DIRECTLY point to their involvement in 911.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1327993/posts


31 posted on 02/13/2005 10:34:26 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: jriemer

Thanks for the ping!


32 posted on 02/13/2005 11:00:14 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: JustDoItAlways; doug from upland; getgoing; SJackson
>>>>>>"Al-Qaeda" itself means the base. Some people have taken it to mean the bases in Afghanistan but it is really "the database" that Osama used to keep track of his converted.<<<

When translating from other languages, error can occur if the word has homonyms in both languages. The trick to confirm translation is to translate back to check if the same meaning will be retained ("out of sight, out of mind translated to Russian and back to English may produce "blind idiot")

The understnding what the term "Al Qaeda" means is the foundation of the strategy to destroy it.

Yes, "Al Qaeda" in Arabic means "base" but in the meaning of "the foundation". Foundation can be tangible (e.g. of the building), can be an institution, but also can be a legacy.

Isaac Asimov's book "Foundation" was translated into Arabic as Al Qaeda.

Some say that it is OBL's Mein Kampf. In summary of the book, the publisher says:

"For twelve thousand years the Galactic Empire had ruled supreme. Now it was dying. But only Hari Seldon, creator of the revolutionary science of psychohistory, could see into the future - a dark age of ignorance, barbarism, and warfare that would last thirty thousand years. To preserve knowledge and save mankind, Seldon gathered the best minds in the Empire - both scientists and scholars - and brought them to a bleak planet at the edge of the Galaxy to serve as a beacon of hope for future generations. He called his sanctuary the Foundation. But soon the fledgling Foundation found itself at the mercy of corrupt warlords rising in the wake of the receding Empire. Mankind's last best hope was faced with an agonizing choice: Submit to the barbarians and be overrun - or fight them and be destroyed. "

Try to look at this from the eyes of young, filthy rich Saudi prince disgusted with the West who read the book while young and got the messianic idea to save Muslim World from "barbarians". Yet, the same person was given the tools of the trade by CIA and support in the highest corridors of power.

OBL has succeeded in seemingly impossible, to unite Shia and Sunni Muslims on a joint task in the name of Muslim faith. In a sense it is apostasy to both wings of Islamic faith.

I see it this way. The OBL uses his own concocted religion to unite shia and sunni within AQ network. I guess that this is "the foundation" i.e. OBL legacy to free the Muzleems from Western domination (barbarians)

Legacy can not be hit with JDAMs nor destroyed with counterterrorist measures. 20 or 30 years from now, when OBL is long dead, young and impressionable Muslim of today will be 40, perhaps a chief engineer in an aging nuclear nuclear power plant in a major Western country, willing to die for the OBL legacy (i.e. AQ in my interpretation) and become immortal.

This is the menace we are dealing with. Running jetliners into WTC was meant to destry the myth of invincible America, not merely to kill 10 000. Whoever has seen the posters glorifying this crime and the cheering crowds knows what I am talking about.

Dismantling joint shia/sunni base within AQ should be the first step to destroy the menace before it is too late.

33 posted on 02/13/2005 12:00:53 PM PST by DTA
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To: japaneseghost
GOOD!

free dixie,sw

34 posted on 02/13/2005 12:08:35 PM PST by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; Abbeville Conservative; acf2906; ...
Thanks for the ping Peach.


South Carolina Ping

Add me to the ping list. Remove me from the ping list.

35 posted on 02/13/2005 1:43:43 PM PST by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; Abbeville Conservative; acf2906; ...
Thanks for the ping Peach.


South Carolina Ping

Add me to the ping list. Remove me from the ping list.

36 posted on 02/13/2005 1:44:35 PM PST by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: doug from upland

ping


37 posted on 02/13/2005 1:49:31 PM PST by uncleshag (...(I wanna be an old curmudgeon when I grow up!)....)
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To: getgoing; mark502inf
Present day American Ambassador to Bulgaria James W. Pardew, while in Bosnia, observed AQ with his own eyes.

Present day American Ambassador to Bosnia, as well as NATO claim there is no Al Qaeda in Bosnia. Never.

They, and Islamic shills on FR would discount this report as "serbian propaganda"

38 posted on 02/13/2005 2:25:43 PM PST by DTA
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To: 1066AD
---Yet on the third floor of a glass office building overlooking the Cooper river is a locked room that is straight out of a futuristic thriller.---

and all this time I thought that was public housing.

39 posted on 02/13/2005 2:53:15 PM PST by smonk
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To: DTA

Bump.


40 posted on 02/13/2005 4:23:44 PM PST by visualops
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