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States Considering Legislation to Counter Perceived Liberalism on College Campuses
AP ^ | AP-ES-02-12-05 0330EST

Posted on 02/12/2005 1:06:06 AM PST by TheOtherOne

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1 posted on 02/12/2005 1:06:07 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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The thing that comes through is how SCARED these people sound of a variety of ideas.


2 posted on 02/12/2005 1:09:58 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone, I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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States Considering Legislation to Counter Perceived Liberalism on College Campuses

Perceived Liberalism? Pondering Legislation? Please states, don't enact laws until you actually recognize the problem. There is nothing "perceived" about it.


3 posted on 02/12/2005 1:11:15 AM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (We have the best politicians corporate money can buy)
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We need to destroy the university system with technology, not try to fix it.
4 posted on 02/12/2005 1:14:02 AM PST by bahblahbah
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The dept of education maintains a list of recognized accrediting bodies.

They should put pressure on these bodies to require intellectual diversity as part of accreditation.

No intellectual diversity should mean no recognition.


5 posted on 02/12/2005 1:14:19 AM PST by mc6809e
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Ward Churchill, we're coming to GET YOU!!


6 posted on 02/12/2005 1:14:46 AM PST by kaehurowing
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My oldest daughter is a freshman at FSU (Florida State). Her first semester she took a Middle Easter culturs course. This past Christmas she came home and was telling me how her professor went on what a great freedom fighter Arafat was. I put an end to that horse$hit quick like and in a hurry. She now sees him for the terroritst and murdeing POS he really was
7 posted on 02/12/2005 1:22:55 AM PST by stm
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This one has "unintended consequences that bite you in the butt" written all over it.


8 posted on 02/12/2005 1:24:35 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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This past Christmas she came home and was telling me how her professor went on what a great freedom fighter Arafat was. I put an end to that horse$hit quick like and in a hurry. She now sees him for the terroritst and murdeing POS he really was

It is intersting how one will pick up erroneous information when it is presented by adults. Good for you for correcting the lesson on Arafat.

9 posted on 02/12/2005 1:25:12 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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This one has "unintended consequences that bite you in the butt" written all over it.

I agree, and would not support it. There is already enough to protect students. I can see kids complaining now that they got a C becuase they were the wrong political stripe, etc. I had idiots teaching in college and great professors too, c'mon we cannot legislate excellence in the workplace, this is true for teachers, politicians, and well everybody.

10 posted on 02/12/2005 1:27:52 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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Right. But imagine if there was someone else who was not teaching that Arafat is a great freedom fighter. Would this law REQUIRE that they call Arafat a freedom fighter just for the sake of academic diversity?

Suppose that a campus does not have a barking moonbat nut job like Ward Churchill. Would "academic diversity" mandate that the campus find such a professor and give them a job?


11 posted on 02/12/2005 1:29:53 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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I agree, and would not support it. There is already enough to protect students. I can see kids complaining now that they got a C becuase they were the wrong political stripe, etc. I had idiots teaching in college and great professors too, c'mon we cannot legislate excellence in the workplace, this is true for teachers, politicians, and well everybody.

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A student threatened to sue my wife for giving her an F in her psychology class. That's pretty ridiculous. I totally agree with your reply.


12 posted on 02/12/2005 1:32:01 AM PST by sodiumodium
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Academic rights are a two-way street. The Left wants it flowing in ONLY one direction: to protect Leftist activist pseudo-scholars right to trash America without fear of reprisal and to allow them the unfettered opportunity to brainwash their young charges in their ideology. All we're really trying to do is restore a level playing field in the university and permit the free expression of ALL valid points of view. After all we live in a free country.

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

13 posted on 02/12/2005 1:33:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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This article is a classic case of liberal bias in the media.

The issue is not "liberal" professors, it is radical anti-American professors who profess treason and socialism.

The article makes it sound like a bunch of mean religious fanatics are trying to end free speech on campus and persecute a bunch of harmless liberals.

AP really really sucks.
14 posted on 02/12/2005 1:33:46 AM PST by cgbg (Just Say No To The Party of Perversion and Prevarication!)
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Instead of forcing the liberal colleges into submission with legislation (which they will ignore anyhow), hit em where it hurts, in the pocketbook... parents need to open their eyes and decide whether that kind of "education" is worth it.. just because a school has a big name doesn't mean it's quality.. parents need to do more research into where they want to send their kids, and have the nuggets to pull em out of liberal colleges in droves...


15 posted on 02/12/2005 1:33:51 AM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: sodiumodium

"Your wife gave me an F because I didn't agree with Bush's FASCIST WAR, man!"


16 posted on 02/12/2005 1:34:10 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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Professors dismissed the bill as unnecessary and questioned whether its supporters had ulterior motives, such as wanting more conservative professors.

There's a tacit admission here that conservative professors actually allow more diversity of opinion in classrooms and have less tendency to posit opinion as fact!

17 posted on 02/12/2005 1:37:24 AM PST by the_Watchman
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This article is a classic case of liberal bias in the media.

The issue is not "liberal" professors, it is radical anti-American professors who profess treason and socialism.

The article makes it sound like a bunch of mean religious fanatics are trying to end free speech on campus and persecute a bunch of harmless liberals.

AP really really sucks.

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i'd rather have our professors professing socialism than outside our university system. at least people can learn the faults and drawbacks of it, and it strengthens the arguments for free market. one of the best professors i had in university was a self professed communist and even though he was very obtuse, i did the work, passed the class and learned something about making rational arguments against communism, as opposed to just 'you commie bastard!'. i would be much more afraid of people who are ignorant of educated marxists.


18 posted on 02/12/2005 1:42:05 AM PST by sodiumodium
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No need for this.

All that's needed is a public forum for students who think they're being penalized for conservative views to post their experiences and for parents of these students to lodge complaints with the college/university their child is attending.

Let the free market work. Full and detailed disclosure will help matters along. David Horowitz has made this issue a priority and his efforts are showing results.

You can bet the Univ. of Colorado is suffering mightily over this Churchill character, both financially and prestigiously. That's how it's supposed to work.


19 posted on 02/12/2005 1:51:52 AM PST by randita
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It is not what professors say in class that influences kids it is what readings they assign.
20 posted on 02/12/2005 1:56:26 AM PST by trumandogz
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