Posted on 02/11/2005 9:13:07 PM PST by SmithL
Maybe "luck" is the issue. Napoleon once asked of an opposing commander, "Is he lucky?" This Skipper has proven that he isn't. I hear sailors are a superstitious bunch and I can't say that I blame them. Who would want to serve on a war ship with a skipper this unlucky? I wouldn't. It may not be fair, but life isn't.
This is not McHale's Navy, Mister. Cmdr. Mooney went through a lot to become what he is. He had to be nearly perfect. God Bless the Sailor that died and Cmdr. Mooney. This is no place for disrespect. If we didn't have people like this defending America you would not be able to have the Freedom you have to act with the disrespect you just did. If you're upset with this send your Incoming, Mister.
Mister.
That's a good concept, but it wouldn't have done them any good in this case.
Why would anything else have to be going on? I don't know how the Navy does things but this may just be the way to conclude the incident for all involved.
If by this you mean you're not paying attention to JOE43270 because he is new, I suggest you look at his joined date again. Seems you are about a year off.
There's going to be some kind of official notice taken when a ship or boat (subs are boats) is this badly damaged.
The findings of this mast could go either way. He could be exonerated, even praised for saving his boat. Or they could torpedo his career. Time will tell.
I am wondering - why did you address your comment to me? I am not conflicted about how this is proceeding, it is a military affair and I understand the regs. Perhaps you were commenting to another's post?
In the USCG Academy simulators, we used to train every XO and OPS for every US Sub in the nation in a set of 4 four advanced, complicated surface driving exercises, for years and years. (Groton sub base a stone's throw across the Thames. They bought their own simulators last year, so I'm outta the picture now)I remember him a few years back in class. Focused, serious, highly knowledgable in the Rules of the Road (primary focus of the training). There's something else going on about this incident. The mast is an investigation, and is welcomed by anyone wrongly accused or heaped on by rumors.
That picture isn't going to save you Mister. Just remember when you go to sleep tonight and sleep calmly and soundly who made it possible for you to do that. Two that are on the top of the list are Cmdr. Mooney and the Sailor that died. God Bless them both and all the rest of us who have defended America Past, Present, and the Future to come. Keep on enjoying your Right of Free Speech and enjoy it. Remember who paid the price for you to have it Mister.
Why don't you explain rather than fire off smart-aleck comebacks? If the only way submarines avoid running into things is maps, then there ought to be a lot more groundings and rammings than there are.
Thank you and God Bless.
The story about the "rear" admiral was yesterday...
Well, I like the concept that someone has to assume responsibility. If it was just one of those things he stilll may not be able to drive subs again, but they don't have to give him a dishonorable discharge.
Well, the fact that NO ONE lost their job over 9-11 still irritates me. Sometimes things happen and heads just have to roll. It's not fair, but life's not fair. Certainly wasn't fair to the sailor who died, or the thousands on 9-11.
So the Admirals mast is basically where the Admiral says "I'm sorry, son. Thank you for your excellent service, but now I'm going to have to screw you." Is that about right?
I don't know how one could be a real confident sub-driver again after something like this happened.
You're right. They have windows. Certainly you've seen "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea".
I think I might have heard on the radio that Mooney disregarded the second chart.
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