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Ex-CIA Man Uncovers Jewish Conspiracy!
Wall Street Journal -- Best of the Web ^ | Feb. 10, 2005 | JAMES TARANTO

Posted on 02/11/2005 11:37:32 AM PST by JohnathanRGalt

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To: norraad

You and your friend are absolutely right. This hyper-sensitivity to our own ethnicity is a byproduct of political correctness which of course comes from the left.

As a Jew,I'll laugh as hard as anybody at a good "Jewish" joke. I think we all need to loosen up a bit. The MSM is always onthe lookout for some perceived or imagined offense directed at some ethnic group, except of course against Christians. Once again, it all comes down to politics.


21 posted on 02/11/2005 12:56:52 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: Hoplite
Sections? Pray tell - just how many sections did you find?

There's a lot about al-Qaeda's use of the internet in Imperial Hubris. An entire chapter and many other sections in the book. Both Scheuer and Richard Clarke, the Bush administration's former counter-terrorism coordinator (who also wrote a 'tell-all' book) clearly understood the key importance of the internet to facilitate Al-Qaeda's terror plans.

I disagree strongly with Scheuer's tactics. However, my opinion doesn't count and Scheuer was the head of the CIA's bin Laden unit.

I believe Al-Qaeda's cyber-security threat is vastly overrated as well as 'spy' uses such as steganography for covert communications. Terrorists want to be understood.

Terrorism is done out in the open. After the terrorist act occurs they usually claim credit over the net. A beheadding has very little impact unless it's broadcast to the world. People need to realize that Al-Qaeda uses the net for recruitment, propaganda, incitement, fundraising, extortion, intimidation, .... etc. right out in the open -- in plain English (or Arabic, French, Urdu, Malay...).

The sites are easily traced, the credit cards paying for the site are on file at the ISP as well as the IP address of the terrorists uploading content are in the server logs. So why keep the thousands of terror sites on line? If they're keeping the sites online so they can be 'monitored' -- then why doesn't the CIA monitor the sites? (Instead of writing 'tell-all' books) If some hypothetical Arabic translator in some cube in the bowels of Langley is actually translating the terrorist statements off those sites -- they why isn't it being published so the U.S. citizens paying for it can become aware of what's going on.

22 posted on 02/11/2005 1:08:12 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt (---- Fight Islamist CyberTerror at: http://haganah.org.il/haganah/ ----)
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To: Zivasmate
Thank you.

My pal also considers it a matter of maturity, meaning specifically the luni-left & the rest of the world has a lot of growing up to do.

But, not to worry, the mature are out there everywhere.

It's just the crying snout nosed babies tend to be noticed because the make so much more needless noise.

23 posted on 02/11/2005 1:47:05 PM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: JohnathanRGalt
There's one section in Chapter 3, and a recursive mention of that section later in the book.

I doubt you've read the book, Galt - you strike me more as someone who relies upon the ignorance of others to BS your way through a thread.

Where at all does Scheuer talk about steganography?

He's discussing Al Qaeda's use of legitimate websites to advance it's vision, and the proliferation of non-Al Qaeda affiliated websites which are also profitting Al Qaeda by providing a pan-Islamic electronic village in which Al Qaeda's activities, aims, and methods can be discussed. Further, he points out that Al Qaeda's paradoxical embrace of modernity has done away with their need for bases or safe-havens: terrorism is now an at home project, from gathering information, to planning and training for attacks.

And what are you talking about? You're going to call for our censoring non-Al Qaeda affiliated foreign websites, thereby strengthening Al Qaeda's claim to American duplicity in regards to the Muslim world "One standard for Americans, another for Muslims", and for doing what exactly to sites like Al-Neda and Al-Ansar, which have been shut down, only to reappear elsewhere in various forms (even on hijacked State of Arkansas servers)? More of the same?

Thanks for the fresh new approach, John.

Why don't you read those pages you've scanned and OCR'd, m'kay? It would save me the trouble of paraphrasing passages from the book (p79-80).

24 posted on 02/11/2005 5:30:41 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
But looking on passively as Israel expanded settlements into the West Bank and Gaza strip was more harmful to American interests than helpful.

What does that have to do with us?

25 posted on 02/11/2005 5:50:31 PM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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To: papertyger

Without America, Israel's existence is somewhat tenuous - think back on the Yom Kippur war and our resupply operations, or our Veto of UN resolutions aimed against Israel.


26 posted on 02/11/2005 5:59:52 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Without America, Israel's existence is somewhat tenuous - think back on the Yom Kippur war and our resupply operations, or our Veto of UN resolutions aimed against Israel.

You brought up expanded settlements. I ask again, what does that have to do with us.

27 posted on 02/11/2005 6:06:17 PM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Gotcha, you are bad.


28 posted on 02/11/2005 6:11:44 PM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: JohnathanRGalt; LauraleeBraswell
Obviously, at least one of the Jews must have had two opinions...

Not to mention the fact that no two have the same opinion ;)

29 posted on 02/11/2005 6:38:10 PM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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To: cynicom

You, and I refrain from calling you sir, are a paskudniak.


30 posted on 02/11/2005 6:42:29 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: papertyger

We are seen as Israel's enablers in the Arab world, and to a large extent that is not an incorrect view.


31 posted on 02/11/2005 6:57:23 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Mark in the Old South

What about "John" ? ;)


32 posted on 02/11/2005 7:03:53 PM PST by gdc61
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To: sheik yerbouty

Sorry you have to stoop to such a level. I would hope that is not a true indication of your character.


33 posted on 02/11/2005 7:06:16 PM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: cynicom

You have a great propensity for being an irritant.


34 posted on 02/11/2005 7:08:37 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: JohnathanRGalt
What a loon....

I can understand how he comes to the conclusions however. He must have known my late grandfather.

Thankfully my father did not pass it on to me.

I would not let him.

35 posted on 02/11/2005 7:08:53 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Hoplite
and to a large extent that is not an incorrect view.

Quite true, but the cause is the same cause that brought this author to his erroneous conclusions in both cases of error.

36 posted on 02/11/2005 7:11:47 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: sheik yerbouty
Precisely my intent my good man. This is a conservative forum, not a "antisemitism" propaganda outlet.

Those with thin skins are rather hypocritical when taking up others bandwidth complaining about "intolerance".

37 posted on 02/11/2005 7:15:21 PM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Cold Heat
but the cause is the same cause that brought this author to his erroneous conclusions in both cases of error.

To quote Carol Broslofski: "What what what?!"

Help me out here hoss.

38 posted on 02/11/2005 7:38:18 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: blue-duncan; LauraleeBraswell
That's Baptists, not Jews.

Aw geez! And all this time I was being told it was the Masons!

39 posted on 02/11/2005 7:41:33 PM PST by uglybiker (SPES MEA IN DEO EST)
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To: uglybiker

That has always been a Baptist diversion.


40 posted on 02/11/2005 7:54:09 PM PST by blue-duncan
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