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Dozens of migrants land in the Florida Keys on Thursday
Key West Citizen and Bait Wrapper ^ | February 11, 2005 | staff

Posted on 02/11/2005 1:46:57 AM PST by Elle Bee

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To: Mark17
My question is, when he assumes room temperature, will it end Cuban communism, or is it going to be business as usual?

Well, "maybe" is the answer. We no longer have a communist enabler in the WH, we have a globalist. It depends on whether a free Cuba fits into the 'big picture'.

I know, that's cynical. Sorry.

21 posted on 02/11/2005 2:07:29 PM PST by ovrtaxt (McClellan: Do away with daily press briefings! Come straight to the New Media!)
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To: 1rudeboy

So what you are saying - the same level of poverty, the same level of dictatorship, the same level of fear, the same persecution, the same possibility of torture - but you would allow immigrants from one, but not the other?

Yeah - that's real logical. When I said politics being different - I was referring to the title of their politics - a ruthless dictator is a ruthless dictator - regardless of the labels "we" put on them.

I fail to see how being from Cuba is any worse than being from some of the other dictatorial countries in Central America.


22 posted on 02/11/2005 5:48:47 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: TheBattman
Immigrants claiming political persecution are allowed from all countries, under current law.

One of the distinctions you fail to recognize is geographic distance. Another is political clout. Can't do anything about the first, and little about the second.

It's simple to argue that a dictatorship is a dictatorship is a dictatorship. Finding a false equivalency makes a fine excuse for inaction.

You saw the same argument when the U.S. invaded Iraq: "why Iraq and not N. Korea?"

The fact of the matter is that Cuba is not Guatemala. Wishing the two are the same gets you nowhere.

23 posted on 02/12/2005 5:53:01 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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You saw the same argument when the U.S. invaded Iraq: "why Iraq and not N. Korea?"

Huh? I did? Thanks for letting me know - because I didn't realize I saw that same argument in that case.

No - I totally understand the Iraq invasion and not yet taking action against North Korea. We just are not ready for action in Korea - our armed forces would need to be greatly bolstered both in numbers and in equipment. Iraq was a "doable" situation. The WOT will have to be fought one step at a time as the opportunity and ability dictates.

Now back to the immigration deal - I have not ignored the geographical reality of Cuba being a VERY close neighbor. I just don't think it's all that relevant, other than making it physically easier for folks to get here.

The truth of the matter is - our continued cold-war stance on Cuba has done what? Castro is living to a ripe old age, still in power, and still oppressing the citizens.

And I do not WISH for Guatemala to be the same as Cuba. The truth of the matter is that many of the so-called "3rd world" countries live under a harsh dictatorship. In fact, Cuba represents something actually a step above the other countries we look at as "3rd world". I just don't agree with this political immigration version of affirmative action. Cubans are no more needy than many others even in our hemisphere (and may actually be better off than some).

24 posted on 02/12/2005 8:00:03 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: TheForceOfOne
Mohammad Atta carried a Conch Republic (Keys) Passport and had used it ..... it is a tourist trinket which was purchased in Key West for $10

I'll bet the public servant who stamped it is still on the job

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25 posted on 02/13/2005 4:12:12 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
Your right, People need to understand the difference between isolationism and proper immigration procedures. Not excepting boat loads of people illegally arriving on our shores does not make us bad people. We need to know who these people are and document them and make them get in line behind those who have already started the immigration procedure according to the law. The idea of providing any public assistance to people who have entered this country illegally is wrong an they should be returned to their country of origin. Providing drivers licenses to illegals is another wrong because it is an assertion of acceptance and encourages others to not follow the law. As our population grows older by percentages in the next 20 to 40 years we will need new workers to fill the void created by the baby boomer's in retirement. Change is inevitable but it doesn't need to be done in a destructive manner, it can be controlled. Border security no matter how strong does you no good once you allow enough of the bad guys in to destroy you. Time is of the essence.
26 posted on 02/13/2005 7:51:18 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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