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Dog Soldiers of the American Indian Movement (AIM)
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Posted on 02/10/2005 8:44:07 PM PST by Snapple

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To: Ladypixel

[Ward Churchill was] "a member of the American Indian Movement (AIM) security team at the Pine Ridge Reservation, South Dakota in the early 1970's.."
http://www.firstnationsdrum.com/Spring%202004/EduChurchill.htm

Here is my source for Ward Churchill's contention that he was a member of AIM security at Pine Ridge in the early 1970s.


141 posted on 02/17/2005 3:12:31 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
According to reports in Indian media, Ward Churchill is surrounded by AIM security. By his own account, he was at Pine Ridge as a member of their security. I think this is the organization that is called the Dog Soldiers.

As I said on the other thread, that "AIM security" is Russell Means and a couple of Means' friends. AIM has been trying to distance itself from Means for years, but has difficulty in doing so because Means /has/ been involved with the organization for years.

I can't tell you often enough that there ARE NO LAKOTA DOG SOLDIERS. There has never been a Lakota Dog Soldier society. There has never been a Lakota Dog Soldier clan. The Lakota tribe does not have these things. These are not part of their traditional practices. These are not part of their religious and social organizations. In fact, they are part of Cheyenne and Arapaho and other tribes' religious and social organizations. There is no connection to the Lakota whatsoever.

I do not cite sources for my contention because I don't have the permission of my friends on the Porcupine Reservation and on Pine Ridge Reservation and in Flandreau to use their names. I'm sorry, I don't know you, they don't know you, and your conspiracy theory made them seriously question your sanity on the phone with me. I don't blame them for having those concerns, because were I in their place, /I/ certainly wouldn't want my name bandied about; for all they know, you'll write them into your silly conspiracy theory and accuse /them/ of having killed some kid in another state. So I hope you'll understand why they have no wish to bring their names forward. To be quite blunt, I'm glad my legal name isn't anywhere on FR at the moment, either, because I'd hate to have you misusing /it/ in your wild harebrained theories, too.

It was established by multiple people, multiple times in the other thread, that there was at one point a falsely named subfaction of AIM which called themselves Dog Men. They are NOT Dog Soldiers. Furthermore, the Dog Soldier societies on multiple other reservations know which tribes have Dog Soldier Societies, and they are not aware of any Lakota Dog Soldier society.

Arlo Looking Cloud was not a Dog Soldier. He did not go through the Society's traditional training and initiation; he does not practice the Dog Soldier ways. He may have been part of the Dog Men, but he is NOT a Dog Soldier. You are mislabelling, yet again, and I keep telling you quite plainly that the term Dog Soldier has nothing whatsoever to do with your theorized group of thugs. Believing everything you read is a really unwise practice as well, especially where it relates to Native Americans... there's an awful lot of bad information out there, especially in books and on the web.

It is quite apparent to me, after spending multiple days in this discussion with you, that you do not care if you wrongfully accuse the wrong organization of your crimes. You're welcome to your wild belief that AIM kills kids, but I certainly won't be wasting any further time entertaining you with it, and I'd appreciate it if you would stop pinging me with any more of it. I no longer wish to have anything whatsoever to do with you or this ridiculous topic. Thank you.
142 posted on 02/17/2005 9:30:30 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: Ladypixel

I have made it perfectly clear on this and other threads that I am talking about Lee Hill/Ward Churchill AIM.

You are ignoring on the record court testimony and signed articles that discuss these Dog Soldiers.



143 posted on 02/18/2005 2:17:03 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Ladypixel

You write that "there was at one point a falsely named subfaction of AIM which called themselves Dog Men. They are NOT Dog Soldiers. Furthermore, the Dog Soldier societies on multiple other reservations know which tribes have Dog Soldier Societies, and they are not aware of any Lakota Dog Soldier society."

So do you do agree that there is this group called DOG MEN that are affiliated with the Ward Churchill/Lee Hill AIM?

I have seen that name Dog Men too. These Colorado AIM Dog Soldiers/Men are the ones I am talking about. I would think I have been very clear about this.

You seem to think I am trying to smear Indians. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Lee Hill and Ward Churchill are exploitig Indians to advance their anti-FBI agenda.

I am not saying these toughs are the same kind of Dog Soldiers that you describe as the traditional societies.
I am saying that there is this AIM (Ward Churchill/Lee Hill) security that is called Dog Soldiers or Dog Men.
Arlo Looking Cloud, who killed Anna Mae Aquash, appears to have been one of these. He killed her supposedly on orders from above. Ward Churchill also claims that he was in AIM security at Pine Ridge in the 1970s. Now that was before AIM splintered.

I am simply trying to establish that Ward Churchill/Lee Hill AIM has some security/enforcement arm. I think they call them Dog Soldiers or Dog Men.

I do think someone connected with this Colorado area AIM may have killed this child. I have a lot of evidence showing what Lee Hill did after the murder to bring forward fake witnesses and to influence the grand jury.

He appears to have been trying to promote the myth that the FBI was protecting a ring of powerful pedophiles. When no evidence of this theory was found by the Investigation, this lack of evidence was depicted as proof of an official cover-up.

Lee Hill even publicized how he had to hide his witness with some AIM people so she would be safe frim the pedophile gang pursuing her. He invited a reporter to the house where she was hiding and complained about the authorities failure to protect her. She didn't need protection at all, and if you are trying to hide someone, do you write about it in the papers. Lee Hill is successful in the media, but his lies don't stand up to the real evidence required in a court.

I know my intital post was a bit breathless, but I have a lot of evidence. My agenda is not anti-Indian. I do think that this Ward Churchill/Lee Hill AIM is dangerous and has these security enforcers.


144 posted on 02/18/2005 2:48:39 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Ladypixel

Here is what I have been told by my sources:

The Colorado Boulder/Denver AIM relies on the Lakota Sioux Dog Soldier clan as enforcers/warriors. There is history of Dog Soldier violence at nearly every reservation. While the Lakota Sioux form the core, Tribal affiliation runs across the board.


145 posted on 02/18/2005 10:13:56 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Chad Fairbanks

You observed that Peltier may have shot at the FBI agents but not hit them.

You could check the trial record for this. My recollection is that the ballistics evidence was that Peltier's gun killed the FBI agents. The FBI recovered the gun.

But check. There is a lot of trial testimony at
http://www.noparolepeltier.com

Peltier admits shooting at the men, so don't you suppose he was using his own gun?


146 posted on 02/19/2005 3:40:55 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Ladypixel

This is about Ward Churchill's "reign of terror."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1351673/posts


147 posted on 02/26/2005 6:35:53 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

Here is a new link regarding Churchill’s alleged direct family tree that he claims Cherokee blood from, and other references about the weathermen bomings, etc., at the News From Indian Country website.

If Joshua Tyner was 1/2 Cherokee as Ward Churchill claims, and not white as the census material shows; his daughter, Anna Eliza Tyner (North) would be 1/4; and her daughter....

See: http://www.indiancountrynews.com/fullstory.cfm?ID=202


148 posted on 03/17/2005 12:56:38 PM PST by Red Fealther
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