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Kay, Carter urge caution on Iran
cnn.com ^ | staff

Posted on 02/09/2005 2:53:30 PM PST by pissant

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To: tet68

Sad but true.


41 posted on 02/09/2005 4:07:21 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Pookyhead

All I have to say is THANK GOD for Ronald Reagan. Ronnie's 1980 landslide was the only good thing that came out of the Carter presidency.


42 posted on 02/09/2005 4:11:27 PM PST by GiveEmDubya
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To: pissant

At this point I wouldn't trust jimmyt carter if he told me how to grow peanuts more less how to deal with iran on any subject.

Hey jimmy, how's that seriously ugly daughter you raised there you rube?


43 posted on 02/09/2005 4:13:16 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: pissant
hearing some of the same signals about Iran and its nuclear program

The comparison should be like Israel jets pre-emptively taking out it's enemies nuclear ambitions in a lightning strike.

44 posted on 02/09/2005 5:08:39 PM PST by Critical Bill
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To: pissant
LOL. I agree. Overall, Pinochet was a benefit for Chile in that he was a dictator of the right who was pro-capitalism and in that he stepped down. Quite often such quasi-fascist governments are the fastest route for a poor third world country to modernize. Democracy in such situations is bad because the people aren't going to take the long view and put up with the growing pains of development. But the situation in Chile is different from Iran in that there was the real possibility of either a communist takeover by Allende or a civil war to prevent that. But let's not pretend Pinochet was a social worker. He was very brutal to his opposition and there were no doubt innocent people who died because of him.

I agree with you that an allied dictator is better than an enemy dictator. But a democratically elected leader, like Mohammed Mossadegh, who is a patriot with an independent streak and who may not go along with us all the time is even better than an allied dictator. Because that leader has legitimacy in such a democratic system and will eventually be replaced by someone else. But worst of all is to have an allied dictator replaced by an enemy dictator, who leads a population that now hates us.

45 posted on 02/09/2005 8:05:07 PM PST by ValenB4
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To: Wristpin
What a putz!!

What would have happened with Iraq if the Shah was left in place to continue the transformation of Iran into a modern state?

Jimmy Carter has been a disaster for the world. An absolute, sanctimoniously blind disaster.

46 posted on 02/10/2005 4:02:00 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: pissant; Happy2BMe; SheLion; EdReform; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; ...

This is different, Iran is saying they ARE building nukes...........


47 posted on 02/10/2005 4:07:45 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: pissant

Carter, whose success in conducting operations against Iran is well-known, can't imagine a successful pre-emptive one.


48 posted on 02/10/2005 4:16:46 AM PST by The Great Yazoo (Why do penumbras not emanate from the Tenth Amendment as promiscuously as they do from the First?)
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Carter let the Iranians hold several hundred AZmericans hostage for over a year. Now, he wants to let the Mullahs hold the whole region hostage with nukes...and don't forget, he's a the guy who appointed perhaps the worst AttyGen ever, Ramsey Clark..


49 posted on 02/10/2005 4:20:36 AM PST by ken5050
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To: GiveEmDubya
Jimmy Carter giving George W. Bush foreign policy advice is like Carrot Top telling Lenny Bruce to develop an "edge."
50 posted on 02/10/2005 4:26:12 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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Kay told CNN he is worried because he's hearing some of the same signals about Iran and its nuclear program that were heard as the Bush administration made its case for the war in Iraq.

They why is all of bleeping Europe in a panic and having talks with Iran if it's all about nothing

I have lost all respect for Kay

As for the WMD? .. it's one thing for our intell to be wrong

But the whole bleeping worlds intell was wrong too??

Sorry ... I'm not buying it

51 posted on 02/10/2005 5:13:37 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: pissant
What the hell happened to David Kay. Now tag-teaming with Jimmuh? I'll never listen to the man again.

Wow, how the administration's selected one has fallen out of favor with 'conservatives'. We were told all about the WMDs, I remember those wonderful threads just like yesterday, how they were just under the next rock...Couldn't find any after the police action and we were told to wait for Kay's report, and the report did not back up administration claims...You get the point. Just a few years ago, he was the best thing since buttered bread. Start doubting administration claims and it's look what the cat dragged in.

Kay said that much like what happened before the U.S.-invasion of Iraq in March 2003, most of the information concerning Iran's weapons program and capabilities is coming from dissidents who would like to see regime change.

A serving of Chalabi anyone? I wonder if these dissidents are getting over a quarter million a year as well. Of course I would hope that whoever these dissidents are in Iran they have learned that the government will gladly throw them under the bus to save face when the 'facts' are found to be faulty.

Whoever let the liberal warhawks into the conservative camp under the auspices of 'spreading democracy' should be royally smacked upside the head

52 posted on 02/10/2005 3:52:20 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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