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Bush sends Congress $2.57 trillion budget
AP ^ | 2/7/5 | MARTIN CRUTSINGER

Posted on 02/07/2005 7:56:15 AM PST by SmithL

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To: Reagan Man
"Finally, some fiscal responsibility from our President. Reducing the size and scope of government is one of the major tenets of conservatism. Good move."

Exactly, this is a move. Not all we want, but movement in the right direction.

Now we need to keep the Congress' collective feet to the fire prevent these cuts from being ...cut.
101 posted on 02/07/2005 3:58:34 PM PST by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: MadIvan

...agreed on every item in your list, Ivan!


102 posted on 02/07/2005 4:16:13 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: Reagan Man
Thanks for selectively displaying. Look at the bottom of Table S3. One number sums it all up. Total discretionary spending is up 2.1%. It is always the case that some depts get cut over others, but overall there is an increase in discretionary spending.
103 posted on 02/07/2005 4:49:42 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad

I noticed "state and international assistance programs" will increase from 4.3% to 15.7%. Is that term a euphemism for taxpayer-funded welfare?


104 posted on 02/07/2005 4:54:23 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Conservative Goddess; cdrw; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; ...

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105 posted on 02/07/2005 4:59:01 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: k2blader

Oh yeah, international assistance. I forgot these Constitutionally approved measures.


106 posted on 02/07/2005 4:59:25 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: TheBigB
$2.57 trillion dollars and the press is going to complain that it is cruel and miserly.
107 posted on 02/07/2005 5:04:13 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: econ_grad
>>>>Thanks for selectively displaying.

I never said this was an across the board cut in spending. Now did I?

Stop being so hard headed. Proposing this level of reductions for certain departments/agencies/programs in discreationary spending hasn't been done since Reagan. That's a fact.

There is mandatory spending requirements that exist under current law, which the President has NO control over. The President can propose redcutions in discretionary spending and thats what he's done.

Remember. GWBush is POTUS. He is not KOTUS.

108 posted on 02/07/2005 5:04:23 PM PST by Reagan Man ("Don't let the bastards grind you down." General "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell)
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109 posted on 02/07/2005 5:05:25 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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To: AppyPappy

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110 posted on 02/07/2005 5:05:30 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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111 posted on 02/07/2005 5:08:22 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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To: Reagan Man

How many of these are cuts that he previously increased in the prior 4 years?


112 posted on 02/07/2005 5:08:55 PM PST by smokeyb
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To: smokeyb

PresBush has been reducing discretionary spending as a percentage of the overall budget since the last Clinton budget in 2001. The Bush 2006 budget, actually proposes some serious cuts in non-military discreationary spending.


113 posted on 02/07/2005 5:20:27 PM PST by Reagan Man ("Don't let the bastards grind you down." General "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell)
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To: Reagan Man

Look under the cumulative change in the last column. The reduction now pales in comparison to what he actually has increased since 2001.

The mandatory spending in each agency is small in some cases except for Labor and Treasury compared to the total budget. I got this from yahoo.

Agency: Department of Education (news - web sites)
Spending: $56 billion
Percentage change from 2005: -1 percent
Mandatory outlays: $7.4 billion
Total Spending: $63.4 billion

Agency: Department of Defense (news - web sites)
Spending: $419.3 billion
Percentage change from 2005: +4.5 percent
Mandatory Outlays: $1.9 billion
Total Spending: $421.2 billion

Agency: Department of Labor
Spending: $11.5 billion
Percentage Change from 2005: -4.4 percent
Mandatory Outlays: $40.5 billion
Total Spending: $52 billion

Agency: Department of the Treasury
Spending: $11.6 billion
Percentage Change from 2005: +3.9 percent
Mandatory Outlays: $41.3 billion
Total Spending: $52.9 billion

Agency: Department of Transportation
Spending: $57.5 billion
Percentage change from 2005: -1 percent
Mandatory outlays: $1.2 billion
Total spending: $58.7 billion


Interior and State have no mandatory outlays, all discretionary.


114 posted on 02/07/2005 5:29:36 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: SmithL

Eliminate the hundreds of millions for arab and muslim terrorists.


115 posted on 02/07/2005 5:32:59 PM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: econ_grad
Oh yeah, international assistance. I forgot these Constitutionally approved measures.

International assistance in the defense of this country is Constitutional. Don't forget.

116 posted on 02/07/2005 5:34:12 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: econ_grad
Total discretionary spending is up 2.1%. It is always the case that some depts get cut over others, but overall there is an increase in discretionary spending.

A discretionary spending increase of 2.1% is less than the rate of inflation plus the percentage increase in population.

That works to less on a dollar earned that you will pay for federal discretionary spending.

117 posted on 02/07/2005 5:39:21 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: pissant
EPA, D of Ed, Commerce, Civil rights, etc.. Get rid of those, and I'll be happy.

Me, too! And the National Endowment for the Arts (no more taxpayer-funded filth), and he needs to urge Congress to get rid of the ESA (Endangered Species Act) and get us the heck out of the useless UN.

118 posted on 02/07/2005 5:40:29 PM PST by alwaysconservative (JF'nK: How can we miss you if you won't go away?)
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To: FreeReign

That is how liberals operate. Everything is inter-state commerce.


119 posted on 02/07/2005 5:41:28 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: alwaysconservative

now we're talkin'


120 posted on 02/07/2005 5:42:08 PM PST by pissant
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