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Church needs better evolution education, says bishops' official
Catholic News Service ^ | 2-1-2005

Posted on 02/07/2005 7:30:07 AM PST by mike182d

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To: lnbchip
evolution and creationism are theories

Creationism is not a theory. It is a belief system.

181 posted on 02/07/2005 10:25:17 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: nmh

> As for "Christians" believing in evolution, that is an oxymoron. You cannot believe in both.

Tell that to all the Christians who do. Your lack of imagination AND wisdom does not necessarily trasfer to everyone else. Just as Christians (most of 'em, anyway) got past the flat Earth, got past burnign cats as witchs familiars, got past seeign the Earth as the center of the universe, Christians will also largely get past the childish notion of "Genesis as literal fact." And Christianity will be better off for it.


183 posted on 02/07/2005 10:27:18 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: JohnnyM
You are not reading your Bible. The earth was there at Day 1.

I don't think so, if I may quote:

"In the beginning God created heaven and earth. And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters. And God said: Be light made. And light was made. And saw the light that it was good; and he divided the light from the darkness. And he called the light Day, and the darkness Night; and there was evening and morning one day." Genesis 1:1-5 [emphasis mine]

The only mention of the earth is as being 'void' it is not until verse 9 than we get anything like the planet coming into being.
185 posted on 02/07/2005 10:30:17 AM PST by tjwmason (For he himself has said, and it's greatly to his credit, he remains an Englishman.)
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To: nmh

> Notice how you elevate a mere fallible mortal above what is written in the Bible ...

A Bible which was written by fallible mortals.


186 posted on 02/07/2005 10:30:47 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: HamiltonJay

Thank you for that splendid concise summary.


187 posted on 02/07/2005 10:32:10 AM PST by tjwmason (For he himself has said, and it's greatly to his credit, he remains an Englishman.)
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To: tjwmason
yes, the EARTH was void. i.e. it existed. It may not have been viable for life at this point. In fact, I would say it was completely covered in water. But it existed.

JM
190 posted on 02/07/2005 10:36:58 AM PST by JohnnyM
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To: nmh

> As for "Christians" believing in evolution, that is an oxymoron. You cannot believe in both.

Then you cannot both be a Christian and believe in the Bible. Consider what Genesis *actually* says:

"Let the earth bring forth grass..."
"Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life..."
"Let the earth bring forth the living creature..."

Note: It's not said that God himself directly created the plants, water critters or land critters.... but that they were "brought forth" from the sea and the earth. This could be *easily* and *intelligently* interpretted as the process of evolution.


191 posted on 02/07/2005 10:38:48 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: John_Wheatley

Unfortuantely, history has shown that those who bang drums can overrun those who are rational. Only the constant vigilance of the rational prevents the domination of the irrational and their irrational ideologies. And even then, constant vigilance may not be enough. Sometimes the barbarians win.


192 posted on 02/07/2005 10:41:06 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: MississippiMan

Not much shock - I was in the military 12 years before I came to Mississippi and hadn't been stationed above South Carolina in that time. The biggest problem was/is adjusting to the summers - they're every bit as brutal as a New York winter!


194 posted on 02/07/2005 10:53:14 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: John_Wheatley

> Why do you think the environment is ripe for the creationist argument to gains at least some acceptance in America?

My guess would be that the Creationists have finally updated their lies and nonsense to at least *sound* scientific, with that ID twaddle. So just as a superstitious barbarian might be held from attacking a castle because of the high walls... give that barbarian a ladder - even a poorly constructed one - and he'll go for it.


195 posted on 02/07/2005 10:53:32 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: John_Wheatley
We are all sinners worthy of death John, but God sent forth His Son to die the death of the Cross to pay that debt. He loves us. He loved us enough to die for us. The wrath of God was executed on His Son so that we may have life and life abundantly.

JM
196 posted on 02/07/2005 10:53:46 AM PST by JohnnyM
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To: RadioAstronomer

Creationism is a theory - The belief that God created man and the Earth is the belief system - How he did it is the theory.


197 posted on 02/07/2005 10:54:12 AM PST by lnbchip
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To: tjwmason

"but those who insist on a young-earth are barking mad."

The funny thing is that they aren't, really. To be sure, such a position requires twisting or ignoring wide swathes of well-accepted modern science, but is entirely consistent with a belief in an inerrant, literal, Bible. A belief which too many people hold to class them all as crazy, although I must admit I have trouble understanding it.


199 posted on 02/07/2005 10:57:19 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: lnbchip
Creationism is a theory - The belief that God created man and the Earth is the belief system - How he did it is the theory.

Creationism in the way the term is normally defined, posits a belief in God. Thusly, creationism is not a scientific theory.

200 posted on 02/07/2005 10:58:06 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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