Guest editorial: Twin bills will fight 'new lawlessness' on border

Arizona Daily Star ^ | 02/06/05 | Jonathan Paton and Tim Bee

[Once-Ler]

Nope kid, that would be you. Long before y'all barged the gates, my family were Republicans in the Free States and even covert Unionist Republicans in Western North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee. Check out the real history of the United States and you might get a glimpse of the country my ancestors helped found and sustain.

Your family isn't you. Having a family proves nothing. Reagan's boy Ron is a loser.

But you're probably a bit too young now

Age does not equal wisdom, but I will agree it is sad when some one gets old and is still stupid.

[Regulator]

Your family isn't you. Having a family proves nothing.

You continue to show your ignorance of the United States and how it developed. Families are the core of it. The values and the society that they handed down are the only things we have - not the people in the government, not the buildings in D.C., not the pieces of paper that codified their beliefs.

WE are the end result, and the only "nation" in existence now that represents the "United States". But we are the product of all who came before us, and if we were raised properly, the values that were hard won over the centuries were set down to us by our parents, our siblings, our families.

This is the fundamental notion of Conservatism. That the ideals developed over generations, passed along and practiced by each succeeding generation, are of value in and of themselves because they are the product of experience, and should be respected, not discarded and ignored.

Thus the history of America is the history of its families, and not a lot more.

[Once-Ler]

WE are the end result, and the only "nation" in existence now that represents the "United States".

psychobabble. I don't disagree with your support of family values, but all people place value around the family. Even the Mexicans who are looking for jobs. Your dodging the issue. America is filled with immigrants who don't have a family tree that dates back to the pilgrims, and a man's worth is not defined by who his daddy is or if he's a mama's boy.

If your blue blood family "ideals developed over generations, passed along and practiced by each succeeding generation" produced you then I'm glad to be the greatgrandson of poor immigrants. Have a nice day.