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F.B.I. Director Faults Himself for Delays of Software
The New York Times ^ | February 4, 2005 | MICHAEL JANOFSKY

Posted on 02/04/2005 7:58:04 AM PST by bd476

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1 posted on 02/04/2005 7:58:04 AM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

Quiet please. The Bureau is down for its morning nap.


2 posted on 02/04/2005 8:00:27 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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hampered by the ever-changing needs of the F.B.I

Scope creep

3 posted on 02/04/2005 8:01:56 AM PST by stainlessbanner (Don't mess with old guys wearing overhauls.)
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If every bank, credit union, department store and grocery store in the known world can figure out how to keep records, communicate and compare notes, why can't the FBI? I think the contractor ought to have to pay back the government.


4 posted on 02/04/2005 8:03:14 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
LOL. I am feeling some sympathy for Director Mueller. It sounds like he's being made out to be the fall guy.

On the other hand, SAIC sounds like they are also being made out to be the fall guy.

Then there is the second opinion company who sounds jealous that they didn't get $100 million in the 2001 contract bid.

Related stories:

SAI says FBI should deploy its software

California defense contractor warns employees following computer theft

5 posted on 02/04/2005 8:07:26 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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Stainlessbanner wrote: "Scope creep."

What does that mean?
6 posted on 02/04/2005 8:09:55 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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Here's an interesting alert from SAIC, the company who developed the software:
http://www.saic.com/cover-archive/announce/012805.html

"SAIC was victim to a break in at one of its corporate facilities on January 25, 2005, and several personal computers were stolen that contained personal information on current and former stockholders."

Here's SAIC's testimony to the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee:

http://www.saic.com/cover-archive/law/trilogy.html


7 posted on 02/04/2005 8:10:22 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (A Freep a day keeps the liberals away.)
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I agree. I am wondering why they subcontracted this out. Wouldn't it have been less expensive and more secure to hire their own computer software program designers?

Oops, I forgot, the Feds don't pay enough for those guys with pens in their pockets.

8 posted on 02/04/2005 8:12:19 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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$105 million? What are the automating? The universe?

What was the problem with this? Gee, they were using snORACLE. That wasn't the problem was it? Nah! /sarcasm off

Checkout how many job openings they have. Over 1000 in Virgina alone. Hey, I thought all the tech jobs were going overseas! Well, at least they have Workforce Diversity.

Looks like a bloated pig of a company working on bloated pig government projects and not doing a very good job judging by their failure on this FBI project.

9 posted on 02/04/2005 8:14:32 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Denny Crane: "I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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Scope creep is a project management term that means requirements constantly change; the scope of your project changes. Large projects like this always have scope creep because nobody can ever agree on what should be delivered.


10 posted on 02/04/2005 8:18:55 AM PST by stainlessbanner (Don't mess with old guys wearing overhauls.)
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Scope creep: Changed and or additional requirements which are not initially specified. Could be "gold plating" could be necessary functions not uncovered during the design phase. Fairly typical occurance on large complex design from scratch jobs due to the top-down nature of requirements analysis. Very hard to avoid. Requires ruthless management to get a working product which covers user needs. Other ways around this are to 1) buy commercial product and adapt it or 2) stage deliveries so that functions are delivered, tested and implemented in pieces so that their risk can be removed from the overall project. Look at how much a new airplane or sub costs for similar situations.


11 posted on 02/04/2005 8:20:10 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Thank you LibFreeOrDie. :)

Earlier I posted Arnold Punaro's proposed testimony before a Senate Sub-Committee here:

Arnold Punaro's Record Testimony

And SAIC's statement concerning the break-in and theft of several company computers is posted here:

Theft of SAIC Computers Containing Stockholder Personal Information

Here's another thread with the news story concerning the theft of several of SAIC's computers:

California defense contractor warns employees following computer theft

12 posted on 02/04/2005 8:33:46 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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Thank you Stainlessbanner. That makes complete sense. So you are saying that it is not uncommon to have "scope creep" on this large of a project? That must be true. Much has happened between early 2001 and December 2004. I wonder how this will resolve.


13 posted on 02/04/2005 8:36:32 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: RKV
Thank you RKV! :)

If a hypothetical computer program was delivered in stages, which in this case, I believe it was, and then they find glitches, which in this case, they did, I wonder if at the point of complaining about the glitches, if the FBI then decided to ask for even more features added into the original program.

That might have meant SAIC having to start all over again with a very delayed completion of the original project.

14 posted on 02/04/2005 8:41:54 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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"But it concluded that modernizing an "antiquated case management system" was far from complete after three years of trying, at a cost of $170 million.

I hope they tried to create a new, simplified way of doing things FIRST instead of enshrining the old, inefficient process in new code.

Part of the problem may be due to stonewalling, or passive-agressive "sabotage" on the part of gubment employees who don't want to change the way things are done, or who want this project (and administration) to fail.

I've worked on several large-scale software projects; scope creep + employee stonewalling + poor management = a "Death March" project.

15 posted on 02/04/2005 8:45:18 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (A Freep a day keeps the liberals away.)
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"If a hypothetical computer program was delivered in stages, which in this case, I believe it was, and then they find glitches, which in this case, they did, I wonder if at the point of complaining about the glitches, if the FBI then decided to ask for even more features added into the original program. That might have meant SAIC having to start all over again with a very delayed completion of the original project.

Bingo! That is EXACTLY what happens!!

16 posted on 02/04/2005 8:46:45 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (A Freep a day keeps the liberals away.)
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Have you read the Book Death march? I'll bet you have.


17 posted on 02/04/2005 8:52:48 AM PST by stainlessbanner (Don't mess with old guys wearing overhauls.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Maddening way of getting anything done.


18 posted on 02/04/2005 8:54:07 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie; bd476

bd476 - you got it! Now that you understand risk management and scope creep, the FBI is looking for a new project manager : )


19 posted on 02/04/2005 8:54:23 AM PST by stainlessbanner (Don't mess with old guys wearing overhauls.)
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F.B.I. Director Faults Himself for Delays of Software ....

....(This has nothing to do with the 'INS'...?)

/sarcasm

20 posted on 02/04/2005 8:54:47 AM PST by maestro
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